Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal

[Clarence]

Hi Clarence and all!
Thank you very much for sharing your great work with us!
I have a question about the ground 'inducer'  (see image) Does it is 'open ended' as shown on the schematic or it is connect on itself? i ask cause it seem to be on the photo of your unit...
Thank you for the eventuel answer. And apologise if for someone it is seem evident...
ps: dont worry about the septic one; if they whant the best answer about their question, they just have to build it!

HELLO wistiti,

it is indeed a pleasure to hear from you sir! I am sorry the the schematic was not exactly clear on that point you brought up. THAT is indeed my fault for not catching that!!
Your question is valid indeed and I can answer you vividly by the attached photo of that very place in the build and it should help clear this up. by word I can say that the #6 AWG ground
return is looped around the Captor black wire loop 2 1/2 turns and then continues on while being reduced to #10 AWG size straight to the terminal strip that acts as the load point for
whatever loads may be placed.
I apologize for having made that difficult Sir!

as always I will answer members valid question gladly.
hope this takes care of the problem.

thanks and cheers.

Clarence

[Clarence]

Hi Clarence. Those are interesting results for sure. However whenever the mains is connected into this sort of circuit
which makes use of earth ground connections, there is always a chance that ground loops back to the
mains are a factor. There should be a simple way to test this exact same setup however without the mains
being in the picture at all. If you get a chance sometime, I'd be really interested to hear what you get
for power measurements in Watts, and also the Power Factor (PF) reading if possible, on both the input and output
power kill-a-watt meters, when connected in as shown in the attached connection diagram. If you can
get the same sort of readings when using your battery and inverter to power the circuit, that should take 
ground loops back to the mains right out of the picture. Please note that the input power meter is connected before
the input ground connection to the neutral, so as not to have the ground wire looping around the kill-a-watt meter.
All the best...

Hello void,

your testing diagram  would NOT be correct in the manner that I would test it!

where you show an open ended dangling wire with the wire effect being diverted at a point prior to the ground return loop is not valid.
the induced effect has to continue STRAIGHT through the circuit to have the maximum effect intended  and that is the way I will test
it in order to prove the point you desire.

I have learned the hard way not to take short cuts as they will always come back to bite you.
take a look at the photo I sent to wistiti a short while ago.

Again Void THANK YOU for your extreme VALUABLE help Sir!!!!

thanks and cheers!

Clarence

[Void]

by word I can say that the #6 AWG ground return is looped around the Captor black wire loop
2 1/2 turns and then continues on while being reduced to #10 AWG size straight to the terminal strip
that acts as the load point for whatever loads may be placed.

Hi Clarence. I can see where the confusion is, as when I look at your attached photo it looks like
'config 1' in my attached drawing, but it sounds like from your description that you are actually
doing as shown in 'config 2' in my attached drawing? Or is it neither? 

Edit: Actually taking a closer look at your picture, I guess it is wired as 'config 2'?  I had to look more closely...

P.P.S.
I have attached pics of how B&L showed it in their patent drawing, and how you showed it in your
own hand drawn schematic. It would be good if we can clear this up. If you are doing 'config 2', then
that actually seems to make more sense to me, and it may be that B&L obscured this on purpose in
their patent drawing to try to hide the details of how they are actually doing it.

All the best...

[wistiti]

Thank you sir!
Much more clear for me!

[Void]

Hello void,
your testing diagram  would NOT be correct in the manner that I would test it!
where you show an open ended dangling wire with the wire effect being diverted at a point prior to the ground return loop is not valid.
the induced effect has to continue STRAIGHT through the circuit to have the maximum effect intended  and that is the way I will test
it in order to prove the point you desire.
I have learned the hard way not to take short cuts as they will always come back to bite you.
take a look at the photo I sent to wistiti a short while ago.
Again Void THANK YOU for your extreme VALUABLE help Sir!!!!
thanks and cheers!
Clarence

Hi Clarence. You are taking my drawing too literally. It is just a quick and rough sketch. The main point was about
measuring the input and output power using a battery and inverter as the supply, and making sure the power meters are
not bypassed by ground wires, not about the specifics about how you have the captor loop wired. No worries mate. It is just
a suggestion if you are so inclined to show that when the mains is taken right out of the picture, whether you still get the same
performance or not. I posted in another reply above about getting clarification on the way you have the ground wire wrapped
around the captor loop wire....
All the best...