Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal

[mscoffman]

OK, so what voltage do you have between mains grid neutral and your earth ground array?

There is absolutely nothing that says the inverter is going to be in any particular phase
relative to the utility line. In fact it's probably all over the place. The inverter has responsibility
for setting it's own frequency clock. If you want to know the difference of voltage it should be
rectified and compared as DC or measured by an ac meter or scope and peek values subtracted.
That the average value would be different then ground = 0v would be somewhat anomalous.

:S:MarkSCoffman

[ramset]

Hoppy
if Clarence is not connected to his neutral or mains "in any way"
why would that be a problem for this completely isolated experiment??
[all other obvious concerns aside if its truly reading a phase in the house]

??
respectfully
Chet K

[a.king21]

Hi, Clarence


Could you do the following measurements please, with everything unplugged?


1 voltages between some adjacent ground rods.
2 Voltages between ground rods furthest away if in series.


These figures would be most helpful.


Thanks

[Clarence]

Hi, Clarence


Could you do the following measurements please, with everything unplugged?


1 voltages between some adjacent ground rods.
2 Voltages between ground rods furthest away if in series.


These figures would be most helpful.


Thanks

Hello a.King21,

Give me a NUMBERED list- Item below listed item , BLUNT and straight to the point, no extra unneeded words ( I have excellent comprehension ),briefly state what and where in the unit ( photo attached )
and I will get to it some time tonight and post it in the morning sometime. fear  not I don't sleep at all, other humans do that , I got over that 37 years ago. now you know why I am BLUNT as hell!
I don't waste time and most things that used to be important didn't make the cut!!

thanks and cheers.

Clarence

[a.king21]

I am trying to eliminate the last possible conventional explanation.
As you stated before, many farmers use electrified fences in your area.
Also the known system of Single Wire Earth Return (SWER) is common in rural areas.


It is a little known fact, but the earth is an excellent conductor. I have for instance re-routed a spark gap through
2 earth rods, and it worked just fine. I have also used very low power ie an ne2 bulb powered by a capacitor and routed it
through 2 earth rods. There is usually a little resistance to current flow at first then (I assume) the earth forms an ionic pathway.


So BOTTOM LINE:


It may work in your area, but it may not work in other countries or in urban areas.
That's what I am trying to figure out.


By measuring voltage between earth rods with your system switched off, you should have no electrical flow to speak of - maybe half a volt or so.