Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal

[Clarence]

Haha,   I like it - measurementalists!   Not needed if you are looped!   I think what some here are still wondering is whether you have enough load running off grid that it is not just the battery providing the power.   With the single battery you have I can't imagine that lasting long at all without being charged a lot if you have even a few appliances going.   I've got a 4000 watt programmable Trace/Xantrex Inverter running off a bunch of batteries and it won't last much more than a day or two without getting the batteries recharged (a few big golf cart batteries but many others are marginal).    That inverter I have says it is 96% efficient and in my experience it is at least that.   It has a built in charger so I'm not sure if I could use it for this setup - might need an external one.   Biggest problem for me is getting time away from the other half's plans for us - which always seem to take priority over any building projects      But this is on top of my project build priority list as of now ...

Hello e2matrix,

a pleasure Sir.  the Xantrix smart charger that I have is a REAL TIGER on a leash as far as i'm concerned. the last thing I do when I am running my unit is to take ALL the loads  off and then let it charge up the battery to its limit for the charger which is 14.47 volts and then the charger goes into silent float mode. its fan continually runs when it is operating in all of its modes except for float. no problem to me but others may not like it. whatever, I say.
after I shut the inverter off and the unit is not running I always check the FALL BACK value that all batteries drop back to when they are idle. with this one its always 13.3 volts. whenever I restart the unit its BEGIN voltage rate is always around 12.5 to 13 volts.
I always have the charger plugged into the Captor output so when I turn on the inverter the OLE TIGER leaps into action and starts bulk charging the battery from say 80% to 100% back and forth and sometimes lower....just doing its thing.

I have kept the unit running UNLOADED just to see if it would  keep the battery charged and actually self power the unit. Did this recently and let it run this way for 2 1/2 hours and id DID keep the battery at 12.1 to 12.2 volts doing its little dance back and forth for this amount of time. told me all I needed to know!           WHY would I say that-----at this time I only had 30 rods in the ground and the limited voltage
WHILE powering the CHARGER was 111.1volts! not the 120 plus volt the charger really needed fed to it by the captor system!  yet it still kept the battery cruising right along IN SPITE of (at that time )
my dumb ass having the TOO small # 10 AWG wires connecting the  to the battery charger. YEP they got warm! note that this was in effect was putting socks on OLE TIGER! coulnd't quite run up to speed
but GOT THE JOB DONE ANY WAY!                I have since changed the wires to #4AWG  and everything runs cool.

so when I finish the rest of my rods soon the captor voltage WITH loads should stay around a steady 122.2 volts same as the phase in the inverter.
NEVER let anyone think installing these rods was an easy chore!!!  It wasn't and Isn't.

Thanks and cheers!

Clarence

[Clarence]

Thanks for your reply.

So, you have 120.4V between your earth ground array and your mains grid neutral! That would suggest to me that what you take as a grid neutral connection is in fact live - a phase! Your grid neutral to earth ground voltage measurement should be very low.

Wrong again!

Clarence

[Hoppy]

Wrong again!

Clarence

OK, so what voltage do you have between mains grid neutral and your earth ground array?

[nelsonrochaa]

HELLO Hoppy,

It is beyond me WHY? people cannot get it through their HEADS that my unit IS NOT CONNECTED TO ANY MAINS AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GET A GRIP!!!!

Clarence

The Same story's came  measurementalists!
I put some months ago some of my tests about this subject and ear the same things, putting all the problems with measurements,
people forget that kind of tests need expensive equipment and actually, for the most is only a hobby and some curiosity , so the fact of share their experiences without anything $ involved is to be welcomed.

Actually i thank to Clarence by their experiments with ground , because i live in apartment and is impossible make some this tests , so i thank for the tips about yours tests with ground disposal.
 
Clarence did a good job with their tests and only share to help people that want study this circuit (Barbosa) .
People have only to learn with their experience and evolve with that to make better and better.
Of course some people will achieve some results but much of people will fail ! Because only try to copy ideas from others without lead by own practice observation. This is the most important !
Lot people even know or understand the main concept of the circuit so only by luck or grace of God will achieve something.
Without observation and practical study the people never will go far .
I will give you a tip Clarence , about two things that i observed in my own tests:

About the Ground rods:
If you improve the contact area of ground like a radiator or a large sheet you will see how results will improve.You need a large contact to balance The distributed capacity in circuit, because ground and the connection act like a capacitor plate , think about that !

The other thing is about the dc ac invertor process:

You have a good equipment actually like the dc ac invertor  , but to improve the output result  you need to raise the frequency of the commutation process and that is limited in your dc ac invertor in mosfets and frequency main circuit, because the main frequency circuit have 2 states in commutation of inductor transformer:

positive pulse and negative pulse but is needed to be only a positive pulse square wave .

You need a "home made special dc ac inverter" in input , that will work in main resonance with their "transformer" generating only a positive pulse that will generate two pulses in main coil  . You can use your 50 or 60hz in final output stage to load your normal "hot" appliances. I know that you see results , with your schema but i assure that this Two points will help improve your results.
 
   Thanks

[Enjoykin]

Hello Iowa old man !!

loop it !! Loop your build without accum.battery and you and we wiil know. - Does it Self-Runner (Ocean of free Enegy) or not !!

Reg. and take care !! 
Enjoyjin