Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal

[forest]

why ? do you suspect something ?

[forest]

EnergeticForum is locked ? Cannot view it

[skribat]

energetic forum not locked I have just been to check ..  unless they have blocked you?

[TinselKoala]

@MH: that image of the post from Clarence is hilarious. Reminds me a lot of UFOPolitics. How many thousands of dollars has his EF thread caused to be thrown away? Piles of blown NTE mosfets (costing twice or three times what the generic IRF equivalents cost), motors, parts of motors, wire, epoxy, time and effort...  Remember, in December of 2012, on page 95 he announced "Overunity Galore".... and now, in April of 2015, the thread is up to page 250.... and he's still buying his home's electricity from the local grid. Meanwhile people come and people go, but you can load up just about any random page from the past two years and read almost the same things. People build and test, find no OU and in fact very inefficient performance, UFO tells them they aren't doing it right.... over and over and over again, but you don't see any proper measurements or demonstrations of real OU from UFOpolitics, and the ones who do actual measurements fall away since they realize they'll never replicate what he _claims_ to have achieved but cannot actually demonstrate.
250 pages, running nearly three years now... Clarence is just a beginner compared to that, but give him time....

[TinselKoala]

and the GEET is a fake .. and Stan Meyers (hydrogen/ Plasma) is a fake .. GENEPAX is a fake .. Rossi / Industrial Heat E-Cat is a fake .. Steorn is a fake .. Kapanadze is a fake ??   (and Tesla was a madman)   all proven if not quite fully understood and

You should be ashamed of yourself for mentioning Tesla in the same sentence along with those fakes and frauds. "All proven"... not hardly. Look around you: You are literally surrounded by technology that can be traced directly back to Tesla's inventions, patents and scientific research. Those clowns you mention... where is anything good or practical or proven from any of them? Nowhere, that's where, and there never will be, either.

energy from the ground will be just another added to the list.  These things often take a long time to understand and develop, and as soon as it is the money comes in to snatch it away.    Governments around the world are sitting on thousands of patents in the
interest of 'National Security'  (protecting power and taxation).  It's the people playing with the fakes who get the job done.   

People playing with the fakes who get the job done... .what a crock.  Yes, there are some patents, every year, in the US that are under secrecy orders, and that is as it should be. And every year some of the secrecy orders are rescinded and the patents released to the public. Your claims about "protecting power and taxation" have no basis in fact and you cannot support them with credible references.
http://www.fas.org/sgp/othergov/invention/stats.html

maybe your motives are good and well intentioned.  Like maggie thatcher it is usually the people who most believe they are right who are not ..  advise people to be cautious yes,  be constructive and guiding if you have something to contribute but the 'crusades' are over and can now be seen for what they were .. wrong. 
As for B&L and Clarence .. soon we will all know and it can be added to the list with the others.

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Yes, you are right about one thing: B&L and Clarence will be added to the list of false claimants, which includes Kapanadze, Rossi, Meyer, Pantone, Steorn, and the rest of that lot. Of the names you mention only Tesla has ever contributed anything to our knowledge and our technology.

You sound to me like a paid disinformation agent. Who are you working for, anyway? Do you get a cut from the Energetic Forum profits?

(See how that feels to you, when you start trying to accuse people like MH and some others, who are only interested in the Truth and in proper research, of being "paid agents" of suppression. It's people like YOU who are the real suppressors, since you encourage people to waste their time and money and creativity chasing Flying Pink Unicorns that can never actually work.)