Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal

[FatBird]

Good points Earthenergy.


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[earthenergy]

Fatbird the diagram you posted was not the right one, the text you posted was for the schematic below which is for their direct current generator which I find very interesting. I am going to test shortly. Thanks for your post you started me thinking. I had to go double check the source and discovered the DC schematic.

Hard to go wrong with this Direct Current version.  If it works, it is just as exciting as the AC unit, and one can hardly go wrong in testing the design. It seems pretty straightforward and one would think they tested the set up to see if it works before submitting the info.

[havuhung]

Hi All,
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I think that this device works in a completely different principle, not exactly what they talked about. Two Brazilian inventor who had created their own devices a legend (extract energy from the ground) to be patented!. . Read it carefully and test equipment on their principles announced, will surely have the answer.


Regards

[a.king21]

I've never trusted Barbosa leal ever since I spent 2 weeks on an unsuccessful replication attempt.
You can't get a trafo to work on dc. It has to be at least pulsed DC.


BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY:


Brazil uses a system of single wire earth return.
In these countries with SWER you can put 2 earth rods into the ground and steal the grid's electricity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-wire_earth_return


I know someone who did it in New Zealand and he told me how the experiment was conducted. It's better
if the earth rods are far apart.


Sorry to upset you, but truth is better than false hopes.

[earthenergy]

I've never trusted Barbosa leal ever since I spent 2 weeks on an unsuccessful replication attempt.
You can't get a trafo to work on dc. It has to be at least pulsed DC.


BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY:


Brazil uses a system of single wire earth return.
In these countries with SWER you can put 2 earth rods into the ground and steal the grid's electricity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-wire_earth_return


I know someone who did it in New Zealand and he told me how the experiment was conducted. It's better
if the earth rods are far apart.


Sorry to upset you, but truth is better than false hopes.

You may be right about the DC design, I am going to test anyway.....to be sure.

On the AC demonstration if the current was coming from the grid and going to the ground it would seem that the current would have to show up on the amp meter clamped on the feed. I have not been able to see any mention of Brazil using swer, all references are for 220 single phase utilities in Brazil. That being said however, it is possible to run isolated single phase to the ground, and power a load in doing so.

Your failure to replicate cannot be considered as proof that it does not work. As someone once said, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

Kapandaze aptly demonstrated to a group of onlooking professional skeptics that 5KW was possible with a small device, with a ground hook up, and then to really blow their minds, he disconnected the battery.  The Kapandaze device has also been replicated on a smaller scale, also with a spark gap, and also disconnected from the battery. So no one can claim there is not an over unity principle being demonstrated.

So yes, I do believe Barbosa and Leal have probably also achieved success in a similar fashion, with a design that is a lot less complex.

The box is closed because they do not want people to know how they are doing it. The motive is no doubt, that it is very simple and very inexpensive to replicate once you see how it is done. Thus the fancy digital instrumentation to dress it up and make it look more sophisticated, and more expensive, than it really is.

If they wanted people to know how it is done they would open the box and show the circuitry, but that would spoil their plans to charge 5K for something that anyone could build with a discarded microwave transformer. Hence the plan to license manufacturers to charge the public exorbitant prices on their behalf.

Their plans will never pan out because at some point it has to be known what they are doing. One has to assume their newer patent filings will now disclose exactly what they are doing, because that is how patents work, you have to be able to replicate. From the looks of the dates on the existing patent work it may be another 6 months before that happens.

There is still plenty of time for suppression to take place. Really, they need to wake up from the pipe dream, show people what they are doing, and then charge a reasonable price for the device and get it on the market. They have no other choice IMHO.

Alternatively, if they are indeed stealing power, they will get absolutely nowhere, except to a jail cell, and very quickly so. They have to know that......