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Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal

Started by hanon, August 13, 2013, 08:01:16 PM

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a.king21

Cheappower2012: Thanks for your input, I will check my files to see If there's more detail on the green trafo.
I would like to point out however that Tariel uses very high frequency in his devices.
The only way I think he could have faked it is if he used Tesla's transmission of energy patents and applied them to a scaled down version.
Tesla also recommended high frequencies.
Meanwhile Naudin claims a successful replication of Thane Heins here: http://jnaudin.free.fr/dlenz/DLE03en.htm

I must admit this device looks a bit like one of Figuera's coil systems.

captainkt

@all, some wires must be there to confuse as on the left side of green trafo all 3 coils are strapped with red wires and strapped again with white wire.

Regards
Keith

Hoppy

Quote from: cheappower2012 on December 20, 2014, 05:21:34 AM
There are tiny wires added by Tariel on the green transformer they perform an important of the devices operation,In the other device's Tariel has made
the feed back to self run is done thru one active device this also powers the load, in this one 2 are employed,this may have been done to power the 2kw load
with only one by its self due to the power level needed to light the heater,and use the other for feedback looping ,it maybe because of conditions you specified.
Heres a picture, keep in mine this is a speculation or guess,however this is the first step to figure out how this device works or if its fake.
Pay attention to where one wire appears to connect to the part of the transformer where the blue wire connects,thats the transformer winding,its 78 ohms,
If its fake its a very strange fake.

Its certainly very strange even if its not a fake. Its bold of you to suggest that these thin black wires are there to perform an important function, when we don't even have a shot to show if they go anywhere, other than just stuck onto the casing to act as decoys. The whole think looks more like a joke to me!

Zeitmaschine

If we fiddle around a bit with Frolov's Avramenko plug illustration, then what do we have? A source of potential changes (a HV coil) with two Avramenko plugs, one on each side, one acting as antenna for the other? Hmmm ...

So this results in having four diodes. Four diodes makes one diode bridge. A diode bridge generates pulsed DC out twice the frequency of the AC in. The modulation frequency of a parametrically excited oscillation should be twice its natural frequency. Hmmm ...

Just considering ...

cheappower2012

To Hoppy
If I got into how exactly I believe Tariels device works
it would be too much,far too crazy.I have a crude model of the operation of the device on how the overunity effect
is created,which I'm refining,it does work,it explains other devices Tariel has made,its going
to be used as a guide in replicating a simple version.Keep in mind its not a free energy device,
but an energy converter,a solar panel is an energy converter,it converts light energy into
electrical energy,the difference in this device is
the energy source is unknown, the energy density is much greater,how the conversion to electrical
energy is done is very different.
I have built a hardware model of 2 of the transformer sections,its a depiction of the operation of  this device,
the electrical operation only,it works,its easy to simulate,not so easy to figure out,this sets
some conditions the device needs to operate,I will try to post a more advance model sometime in the near future simulating
all sections with details why and how.
You have to keep in mind there are two things here ,one is the electrical construction of the device,second the
process creating the overunity effect.You are correct a top view of the transformer is needed,however one may not exist so I have to guess where
the wires connect based on the simulation and other information I have.The present goal is to
gather enough information to attempt a replication of a
simple version of the device, there is no construction information about Tariels device to replicate anything,the construction
information here ,comes from members trying to replicate other peoples devices that claim they figured out Tariels secret,totally crazy and silly.The members here attempting to replicate these fake devices are not silly or crazy,its the people that made the claim that they were real that are.

Tariel does not want any one to figure this out,hes aware
that people will simply steal it and claim they invented it,under the delusion they will make
a billion dollars.There are a few hard line skeptics in here that have no moral compass and
would steal the information to profit from instantly if they could.
Its a very low tech device,
you simply can't sell it,patent it or make money from it,Tariel is fully aware of this.
I know your highly skeptical and you should be given the vast number of phony devices
that keep coming up.At one time I believed Tariel was simply a conman pushing a fake device
I still believe hes a conman of sorts,but I believe hes devices could be real
and its very important to investigate hes devices.