Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal

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A signature campaign by Barbosa and Leil on avaaz.org reads the following :

CEMAR ENERGY COMPANY MARANHÃO IS IN FRANCE TO CHASE THE INVENTORS CAPTOR ELECTRON: NILSON BARBOSA Cleriston LOYAL AND ABOUT TO DETERMINE THE PRISON OF CAUSING THEM BIG Bully

A CEMAR COMPANHIA DE ENERGIA DO MARANHÃO ESTA EM FRANCA PERSEGUIÇÃO AOS INVENTORES DO CAPTOR DE ELÉTRONS:NILSON BARBOSA E CLÉRISTON LEAL A PONTO DE DETERMINAR A PRISÃO DOS MESMOS CAUSANDO GRANDE INTIM

Whats happening guys, anyone knows about this in details ??

Best,

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I have a little news which I am not happy to hear .. ... ... my contact says ..
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The news i have are not so good at all.

A man i know little has been in contact with with Barbosa by cellphone. After some talks this man reached the conclusion that the Barbosa´s  device is just a way to fool the meters and not a really energy amplifier as seem to be the Kapanadze.

Anyhow we will invite him to be  here at our city to the Free Software event at May. It he comes and if he bring with him a Captor we will have the opportunity to really exam this piece of equipment.

By the way, do you know any reposts about people trying to replicate the Kapanadze´s device ?

That report by  Jean-Louis Naudin about Kapanadze was not so good at all as he reached only COP < 1.

Best
Thomas .... ....  [ remember they ran the device from a battery also, fool the meters?]
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My personal feeling is that they do have something, if they just wanted to take the money and run they would have gone by now they are getting a lot of agro .. also I think the same of Kapanadze and the other devices, there is something.  Maybe they are using the energy source as an earth battery or a capacitor and by using a pulse generator they are magnifying the natural frequency to pump it out or release it. Imagine the device as a water pump taking water from the ground, for example the heat pump like the ' Thermo-Syphon '  it is not over unity or perpetual but it is very useful, note it does not use a common energy source.   I am thinking that people such as the Brazilians, Kapanadze and others are using the same principles lets say magnifying natural frequencies to cause flow in one direction for example, a/c current. translation of pendulum movement into rotational etc. the principle is always there use of an outside energy source to magnify a resonant frequency. one more example  remember when you used to go swimming and make waves in the pool with your pals? .. a few people can move an enormous amount of water which splashed out of the pool and you were only a few kids (an outside energy source) 

I think they have something which they don't fully understand yet, I also think there are people who will try to make them look ridiculous so that people won't believe what is happening and won't take it seriously.  It was said when the motor car was invented that if you were to travel faster than 20mph you would not be able to breath and would die .. they said man would never be able to fly, and that if you walked too far you would fall off the edge of the earth.  We are explorers, whatever we can dream has the potential to become possible one day .. remove the resistance.

[Farmhand]

Just an update, I'm almost ready to run my second experiment. Almost setup, unless I see something interesting I won't bother with any video.

I've decided this test will be to use the grid neutral (which is grounded by the house ground) and the High current loop (which will be grounded to my own personal ground stake) as the output, ignoring the existing LV windings on the transformer. I'm looking at it and visualizing the circuit in operation and all I see is a small difference in potential or Phase between the two grounded points. I do not see what else could happen, both output lines are connected to the ground. I fail to see how anything unconventional will happen. The neutral line from the grid is grounded and the high current loop is grounded if both grounds are good then the potential difference should be small, a few volts at most, likely less than 1 volt. But I'll try it anyway. It just doesn't make any sense.

I've got one loop of 8 mm cable for the loop around the transformer with a air loop for measuring the current in the loop.

The circuit will go from the grid to a safety switch then the energy meter then the variac then the transformers 240 volt winding. The neutral of the grid will be one output leg and the grounded high current loop will be the other output leg as shown in the drawing in my previous post, the drawing in the red box.

Cheers

P.S. when I look at the device opened up in the pictures does it show the thick cable wrapped around the outside of the toroid core and not through it ?

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Just an update, I'm almost ready to run my second experiment. Almost setup, unless I see something interesting I won't bother with any video.

I've decided this test will be to use the grid neutral (which is grounded by the house ground) and the High current loop (which will be grounded to my own personal ground stake) as the output, ignoring the existing LV windings on the transformer. I'm looking at it and visualizing the circuit in operation and all I see is a small difference in potential or Phase between the two grounded points. I do not see what else could happen, both output lines are connected to the ground. I fail to see how anything unconventional will happen. The neutral line from the grid is grounded and the high current loop is grounded if both grounds are good then the potential difference should be small, a few volts at most, likely less than 1 volt. But I'll try it anyway. It just doesn't make any sense.

I've got one loop of 8 mm cable for the loop around the transformer with a air loop for measuring the current in the loop.

The circuit will go from the grid to a safety switch then the energy meter then the variac then the transformers 240 volt winding. The neutral of the grid will be one output leg and the grounded high current loop will be the other output leg as shown in the drawing in my previous post, the drawing in the red box.

Cheers

P.S. when I look at the device opened up in the pictures does it show the thick cable wrapped around the outside of the toroid core and not through it ?

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Hi at the moment we are experimenting so anything goes if it seems to be safe yes .. did you try reversing the ground connections. and did you try dissimilar materials/ metals for the earthing rods,  maybe as with the earth battery it makes a difference, eg one copper and one zinc (galvanised) this is what Kapanadze used (a copper radiator buried in the ground and the galvanised steel water pipe. if you look at the best metals for the earth battery electrodes there is a list of best pairs/ combinations to use. maybe it won't make a difference unless somebody tries it we won't know. just another possibility, I assume also it requires and oscillator or as with Kapanadze again a spark device and a load, it seems to not produce current unless you are drawing it off in use.  maybe you have already thought of all this.

[Farmhand]

Yes, well my ground stake is a 6.5 foot galvanized steel fence picket all the way in the ground but the house grounds are copper rods, the house wiring system has two ground stakes, one at the house by the fuse box and one at the work shed by the circuit breaker box there. My ground stake is in permanently moist ground about 10 meter from the closest house ground. My electric fence for the animals has two gal. steel pickets it is about 50 meters from my ground stake, I can pick up the electric fence impulse by scoping my ground stake connected to a coil.

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[Farmhand]

WOWEE, With only 100 volts to the 240 volt winding the input goes to 33 Watts and the single loop of 8mm cable has 188 amperes of current flowing in it and it gets quite warm. Usual idle power input for the transformer is a couple of Watts. In my opinion if I took it to 240 volts input it would hit the current limit of the 8mm copper cable, not sure what that would be, any idea's ? The input would be fairly high as well, maybe 80 to 100 Watts. Maybe I need thicker wire or two of them paralleled. Anyway I'll continue and see if the insulation melts or not. hehehehe

I think it's a fire hazard. 

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