Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal

[Void]

And away we go when crunch time is at hand.
Of course it wont work out,and we also will never see a video of this device self running-->the chicken has flown the coop,as the to do's are far more important than showing the world the first self powered/self running device with excess energy.
Yes-->WHAT A JOKE.

Dang man. There's no need for that sort of nonsense at all.
Clarence is just building the device based on his best understanding of how it is supposed to be done,
and running tests to see if it works as claimed. He doesn't have to share any info here.


I personally am very cautious about considering drawing conclusions about whether some device or effect I am
testing might really be over unity or not, but in regards to Clarence's testing, we don't know much details of what all specific
tests Clarence has done so far. For myself, over the last several years of experimenting in this area, I have seen some interesting effects,
but with more in depth testing I usually come to a better understanding of what is happening and determine that it is not actually
over unity, even though it can sometimes look like it at first without investigating much deeper and carefully into what is going on.
In the case of Clarence's B&L device, we simply don't have enough info about how it is performing so far to be able
to draw any conclusions one way or the other, as Clarence hasn't posted much in the way of details about his tests so far.

Clarence did say a short time ago that he has connected his device to the mains and powered things like his
microwave, and some others here were also posting some info about similar devices that were powered from the mains,
so that is why I posted the info about potential mains ground loops when using mains power and connecting a device to earth ground.

Once Clarence gets all his new ground rods installed and connected in, if he can make his device self run using the battery and inverter
and charger (no mains connection) while powering a small load like a light bulb,  and leave it running steady for say a couple of days, if the battery is
still maintaining around a full charge under those operating conditions after running steady for a couple of days, then that should be a pretty good test.
Clarence is pretty busy however, so it may take him a while to get that all ready and do that sort of testing.
All the best...

[Hoppy]

I have removed the captor loop transformer from the circuit,so as you can see a little more clearly what you have. As you can see,the ground rods are nothing more than a resistor on the neutral side. The more ground rods you add,the more you decrease the resistance-the more power avaliable to complete the loop.

The battery under this direct looping will not be in the best of health!

[tinman]

Dang man. There's no need for that sort of nonsense at all.
Clarence is just building the device based on his best understanding of how it is supposed to be done,
and running tests to see if it works as claimed. He doesn't have to share any info here.


I personally am very cautious about considering drawing conclusions about whether some device or effect I am
testing might really be over unity or not, but in regards to Clarence's testing, we don't know much details of what all specific
tests Clarence has done so far. For myself, over the last several years of experimenting in this area, I have seen some interesting effects,
but with more in depth testing I usually come to a better understanding of what is happening and determine that it is not actually
over unity, even though it can sometimes look like it at first without investigating much deeper and carefully into what is going on.
In the case of Clarence's B&L device, we simply don't have enough info about how it is performing so far to be able
to draw any conclusions one way or the other, as Clarence hasn't posted much in the way of details about his tests so far.

Clarence did say a short time ago that he has connected his device to the mains and powered things like his
microwave, and some others here were also posting some info about similar devices that were powered from the mains,
so that is why I posted the info about potential mains ground loops when using mains power and connecting a device to earth ground.

Once Clarence gets all his new ground rods installed and connected in, if he can make his device self run using the battery and inverter
and charger (no mains connection) while powering a small load like a light bulb,  and leave it running steady for say a couple of days, if the battery is
still maintaining around a full charge under those operating conditions after running steady for a couple of days, then that should be a pretty good test.
Clarence is pretty busy however, so it may take him a while to get that all ready and do that sort of testing.
All the best...

Hi Void

Clarence has said that he has had the device running in loop mode without a load for 2 1/2 hours,and the battery maintains it's voltage. I only asked what test and/or measurements he had done,and all i got back was-->the device speaks for it self .

I also sepperated the captor loop transformer from the circuit to show others clearly what you have-->and that is a simple looped system. The captor loop transformer is a nuthing device,and serves no purpose at all to the system,except for maybe draining a bit more power from the battery,and turning it into heat.

The ground rods are nothing more than resistors in the circuit,and the more he adds,the less the resistance in the neutral line.

How many people are going to waste there hard earned cash on this one i wonder?. I see what it is,and it is nothing but a battery to inverter to load to charger to battery loop. This means nothing more than a system full of losses by way of heat.

Do you believe that you will ever see this device running in a self sustained mode while driving a load?.
Some times the truth is the hardest to hear,but none the less,it is the truth.

[a.king21]

Hi Void

Clarence has said that he has had the device running in loop mode without a load for 2 1/2 hours,and the battery maintains it's voltage. I only asked what test and/or measurements he had done,and all i got back was-->the device speaks for it self .

I also sepperated the captor loop transformer from the circuit to show others clearly what you have-->and that is a simple looped system. The captor loop transformer is a nuthing device,and serves no purpose at all to the system,except for maybe draining a bit more power from the battery,and turning it into heat.

The ground rods are nothing more than resistors in the circuit,and the more he adds,the less the resistance in the neutral line.

How many people are going to waste there hard earned cash on this one i wonder?. I see what it is,and it is nothing but a battery to inverter to load to charger to battery loop. This means nothing more than a system full of losses by way of heat.

Do you believe that you will ever see this device running in a self sustained mode while driving a load?.
Some times the truth is the hardest to hear,but none the less,it is the truth.

And iron boats will never float. Everyone knows that.

[mscoffman]

The battery under this direct looping will not be in the best of health!

While for historical purposes you are most probably correct, you are not taking into account that
the correctly designed battery charger can compensate for this situation. Batteries do not like
to charged and discharged "at the same time". But the charger could let the battery "breath" by
integrating a charging time then integrating a discharging time, so that it doesn't have to "switch" modes
instantaneously, and it can do this without using too much power. My tendency is to always have
a battery in charge mode or discharge then swap it to the other, but this violates the depth of
discharge restrictions. Millions of motors vehicles use floating batteries apparently ok.
Clarence is not using a deep cycle battery so we should soon know.


The real question is when you have new technology should the person using it have to prove OU loop
function with older technologies - I think not.