Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal

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MH
I have a question ,I went back to read a link you posted above and this post was underneath it
you know anything about that??
aside from being funny its obvious he's talking about Prof Savic which I replicated and suspected a groundloop was responsible,[Now I'm not so sure]
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal

« Reply #1044 on: March 19, 2015, 08:24:21 AM »
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Haugh Big White Iowa Man !!

Tell us, did you achieved SELF POWERING in your schematic ?

I have watched tube video, replication BARBOSA-LEAL machine, from some Whie Man Savic where he shown 2.3 kWatts ouput at Water Heater with only one Torus Power Transformer. Why do you need two ?? Where is interrupter in your schematic Why don't use Counter Face windings on one big Torus Power Transformer ?. He said BARBOSA-LEAL machine is the scalar reverse Tesla coil that draws free electrons from the soil and using Tesla resonance multiply their number and regulate output power.  Make  scalar reverse Tesla coil on big Torus Power Transformer. Windings should be Counter Face. But first put both of your transformers in Laundry Stack Antenna manner with Counter Face Windings.

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Hunkpapa Lakota Sioux
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The funky toroids may as well not even be there.  Anybody that truly understands electronics would see this right away. 
This is the old tired, "battery connected to the charger connected to he battery" nonsense.

MileHigh, it is actually you who keeps making the same argument over and over, from what I have seen.
If we analyze a circuit/device making the starting assumption that it is impossible for a given device to pull
in extra energy beyond what the power source is supplying then, yes, over unity is impossible. That goes
without saying if a person is going to hold to such an assumption. However some people here allow for the
possibility that some of these devices may be able to pull in energy from an outside source somehow, which
of course throws the standard circuit analysis off, as there is then the possibility of energy entering into
the circuit through some unknown means. Sure, most over unity devices turn out to not work as claimed,
but that doesn't mean they all necessarily don't work. Those who are here out of interest in the possibility of
over unity look for actual evidence before deciding that some device is definitely a hoax or can't work.

The B&L device is claimed to be able to draw excess energy through the ground through its 'electron captor'
arrangement, so that is where the excess energy is supposed to come from in this device. It is not looking so good
that the device really does work, but until proven a scam or hoax, there is nothing wrong with people wanting
to do their own experiments to see if any given device arrangement might actually work as claimed or not. Yes, the odds
are high against coming up with a working device, but if people want to spend their free time experimenting with
such things that is their business. We really don't need reality police launching a full out assault every time
someone starts doing some experimenting and starts posting here about it.  Many of us here really are capable of
evaluating results for our self.
All the best...

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Void:

Thank you for the summation.  That's pretty much what I picked up by skimming through Clarence's postings.  However, he does make occasional claims that his system is generating free energy.

This is a quote from Clarence:

120 volts x 2.5 amps is 300 watts.  Whatever could it mean for the supplier to call it a "300 toroid?"  My conclusion is that that is their standard toroid size for making your own 300 VA toroidal transformer.

MileHigh

Yes, Clarence is using 300VA power toroids, so that is what the 300 stands for in the product code for his toroids.
All the best...

[MileHigh]

Chet:

Sorry don't know anything about that.

The problem with "power from the ground" is that electrons are nothing without voltage.  The ground is not at any kind of voltage, it's at.... ground potential.  So where do you get the much-needed voltage?   You get it from some kind of device, that is sitting above the (physical) ground - a black box.  The entire premise for getting "power from the ground" is false because you need a potential difference between two points, and you need a current loop that goes through those two points.  No (potential + loop) and you have got squat.  The "ground" in the physical ground is just a lost sea of electrons with no useful potential between their current position in the physical ground and somewhere else.  That somewhere else also has to have a ground return.  That is the reality that you have to work with.

MileHigh

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Yes, Clarence is using 300VA power toroids, so that is what the 300 stands for in the product code for his toroids.
All the best...

And for you out there thinking about this concept, you have to wonder why Clarence did not already know this or could not simply connect the dots and figure out what it meant himself.  Alternatively, since he has been singing about this stuff for four months, you would think that he would want to find out.