Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal

[MileHigh]

Yes, that's true.  You haven't noticed a certain extra flair to his postings?  Unfortunately that phenomenon I mentioned does exist, so I was making a speculation.  He is welcome to come back and present his stuff.

Notwithstanding what you state, a querie about the power flows in the setup has lots of value.

<<<
MPORTANT UPDATE: aaron5120 no one to date has grasped the fact that this unit with just the toroids in looped secondary coil  format and the full SIXTY ground rod installation (4 rods input  -  56 rods return ) can simply be powered LEGALLY by plugging the toroids and the phase / neutral as shown in a  previous schematic into any mains outlet receptacle and get the SAME type of results B&L
demonstrated in their first you tube video ( which has now been taken down ). THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID!!!  and I have recently done the same thing MYSELF!!! you CANNOT DO IT WITHOUT  THE GROUND RODS IN PLACE FIRST!!! I verified my results with my KILL-A-WATT meters I always use in my circuits.  the results were stunning to say the least. you get about 80% useage power through
the GROUND system to whatever load you place but ONLY USE ABOUT 20% power consumption through the mains  system you use!!! so until you can get enough funds to obtain the battery and charger and the inverter you can just use the mains method and reduce your mains bill by about 80% as soon as you build. however do NOT bragg about it to your utility Company because you will be reducing their revenue from you by 80% and they sure won't like it ! in the mean time you can complete your build and finally get free.

example - I powered my unit (without charger, Battery,inverter attached at all) and plugged my microwave unit into my build output to load .........KWM meter read 15.5 amps at 1604 watts and the mains KWM SHOWED 2.2 amps at 268 watts.  about an 80/20 relationship.
>>>

Free energy, bring it on.

[ramset]

Hmmm
where I grew up we had to be very careful when and where we "speculated"
such is not the case on the anonymous internet.

as a result of my experiences in life I chose not to speculate or assume and I always treat a man as if we were sitting at the same table.

but we've had this conversation many times before.

have a good night.

Chetkremens@gmail.com

[MileHigh]

I guess I have thicker skin.  I have seen people speculate or outright accuse myself and others of being evil paid agents of the evil cabal and the associated death squads.  It's kind of a comparable situation.  I was also called a knucklehead, woo hoo.  But I have never seen you state that those statements are not exactly good behaviour.  If I can be accused of being associated with death squads and survive intact, surely Clarence can survive intact and step up to the plate also.

[ramset]

I think sometimes we get responses that are a direct reflection on our greeting.
here I think being called a whacko and Mentalevangalist [or whatever you called him[much worse]]
and a full paragraph of nasty , would invite similar responses.

Clarence chose to leave instead.

perhaps a more civil introduction would lead to similar responses.
however its not what you do and mostly you can play the TEACH and get by with being curt .

some folks [most men not women ] will come back at a Curt too'd with a similar or stronger retort.
sans all the evil stuff that comes your way once the games begin.

here we may never know what was actually being done with out biting the thousand dollar bullet.
and to be clear I know you always mean well, and there are no feelings in baseball
but you hurt Peeps feelins.

its how you roll ..and some Peeps come back with punches when their feelings get hurt
its what some Men do.....
not Clarence He's too old and wise for that.

[MileHigh]

Chet:

I do regret the comments and they could have been stated in a better way.  I suppose it was partially due to a sense of righteous indignation.  However, one year from now when this goes nowhere and chances are Clarence will be forgotten, you can thank me for at least being 100% correct about this situation.  Just like I have been right before.

Beyond that, if you allegedly have such marvelous free energy technology that can give you a 500% increase in your mains power output when driving a load, why should some ego issues that you will naturally get over within a few days permanently prevent you from presenting your system and your data?  Aren't the stakes much higher than one or two little egos?  We all know who the real person in the long run will be the "bad guy."  So you can paint me as the bad guy now but the real bad guy will eventually be revealed.

Assume Clarence is reading all of this too.  The floor is yours if you want it Clarence.

MileHigh