Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal

[Farmhand]

My mobile phone can measure the ambient magnetic field in uT, it's telling me about 47 uT here if I move it near a magnet it begins to rise and affects the compass reading of course. Funnily as I move it closer to ground the reading becomes less about 38 uT near the ground 1 Inch.

The map is from 2010 they show over there I think and I would say it is a constantly changing thing to some extent. 5 year old magnetic anomaly map I think would be unreliable anyway.

I was meant to stop posting on this thread but since Clarence went to EF anyway I'll post. 

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[nelsonrochaa]

MH:

Wait.  Someone on EF actually asked (demanded) for measurements?  Well, that will be the end of that.  Clarence will most likely pull out of there as he did here.  We can not have folks asking for proof or measurements.  All that does is drive these inventors to other forums where this info is not asked for.  Worse case, it might make the inventor burn all of his notes and give up thereby depriving the world of yet another free energy device.

This is really sad.  I thought that EF banned those types of questions years ago.

What will Chet think about this?

Bill

Man you are a curious person... What is your idea with this speech so corrosive? The hunt is over do not you understand?
People asked not only for testing, but criticized a less correctly, this is what i see in this topic .
Your speech shows well what your intentions.
Note that these not contribute to appease this topic, only to flare were more nap know?

You need attention? Work for it! but not with these derogatory remarks. Maybe you need to feel involved in some kind of project like
LED flip flop circuit or something this genre. You will able to make lots of measures .... in your home and show to your friends that like this kind of game !
Flip flop flip flop

[Hoppy]

What is the longest you have run your build in self looping mode with the battery, and what specifically did you have connected as a load for those tests while it was self running, and what was the battery voltage at the end of the run before you switched everything off? As you no doubt know, you have to measure the battery voltage while everything is still running and the battery is still under load at the end of the test, before you switch anything off, because the battery voltage can start to climb back up once it is no longer under a load. I am sure I am probably not the only one who would like to hear some more details about how long you have run your build in self looping mode, and what kind of battery voltage is maintained throughout the test runs while the battery is under load. You must have no doubt run your build in self looping mode with the battery for much longer periods than just four hours to confirm that it can self run for a long length of time without the battery voltage starting to drop?

Clarence has answered every other question others have asked except this one-->interesting.

Yes, this is the most important question that needs an answer. A battery in self-looping mode can climb in voltage for several hours depending upon load. The 3BGS guys over on EF have found this out and also observed how a battery can suddenly increase in voltage to drive their motor load to a rather much higher speed, which can be rather startling, as the sulfation is suddenly cleared from the battery plates. The 3BGS guys carefully control the system load, so that the changing internal resistance of the batteries is optimally matched to the load for minimum overall system voltage drop v time, in order to maximise the duration of this battery vagary.

[mscoffman]

What is the deal on the captor?

MileHigh

Since you asked..

Yes, I can explain how the captor transformer works in a few words.

"It is a saturable magnetic power regulator designed to tap into the utility power company
environmental ground return power circuits using a limited but independent ground rod array
design specially by Clarence."

(o)  Once working, for power companies return current, it can seamlessly work for supposed
        Telluric currents.     
(o)  It is a carefully designed unit that will support the above carefully designed ground rod
         array and intercept certain specific amounts energy that it makes available to the user.
(o) Only certain countries utility companies transmit single phase power through
         the ground and other use balanced duplex wiring, in the balanced country cases the captor
         function will not work except by other telluric currents.
(o) Its design parameters have been set in a certain way to self limit any internal damage
         levels, the whole unit will need to be redesigned if that ever required to make changes.
(o) The voltage functions of the captor and array are low 0->2Volts because array-to-array
         impedance resistance is rather low. The captor then also works on rather high *current*
         and steps up the voltage  1-to-100 to get to the utility company voltage level for the
         internal voltage levels while the current in the ferrite material limits magnetic field maximums,
         limiting amplitudes.         

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Balance of System, test, safety etc.

     Perhaps Clarence is being excessively positive about the results obtained by his
system longer term in running operation, we don't know whether this is true or not.
The efficiency of the *inverter* X times the efficency of the *battery charger* is high.
Therefore most any excess energy from the captor will extend the self running loop lifetime
with energy that excites the captor loop. Addition high level appliance load can be expected
to shrink the amount of time the available to the system before it needs recharging.
There is some "systems stuff" that could be used to contribute to the utility of this system
if there is not always sufficient energy in the captor to keep the battery charged. We need
to have a "stiff upper lip" as we examine the following data result objectively..

What we need to determine for this system to be of use..

(o) What is the average lifetime of the battery charger in terms of system operation -
        how often is it killed by captor loop power supply overvoltage pulses? Hopefully it
        is a "long time" but if it isn't there are some things that can be done to help if the
        answer is.. "too often".
(o) What is the Quality of the power derived from the captor loop. This is simple...use
         a utility line power line quality monitoring instrument that shows, voltage spikes
         brown outs, bulges, etc. This does not have to be the most complex instrument
         instrument for recovering VARs, etc. We need someone who will put all this data
         online so we can all see what we are up against longer term.
(o) What is the minimum hold up capacity on low voltage required for operation , how much
         battery Ah is required to keep the captor loop running at a minimum. I suggest doing this
         using a supercapacitor bank. Funny, but I noticed user lasersaber was on here, perhaps
         we could borrow his battery supercapacitor bank, to do exact calculations.
(o) Is the IRheatlamp turning off at times? Means insufficient input energy to keep the captor
          loop running all the time. This suggest more battery capacity, would be advisable.
(o) Find out what the maximum capacity of the captor is to supply power. This is an important
          future number because it represents a major design target parameter. The easiest way
          to get this number is to guarantee galvanic isolation and sell the excess back to power
          company for the duration of the test to find out how much is actually available. Requires
          instrumentation measurement of low voltage.

    I suggest designing the IRheatlamp into a dump load controller to suck excess energy out
of the captor when voltage gets too high. This would provide more input margin for the battery
charger.

    We need the ability to discuss problems ahead of time (because we are smart), make a
document, and have one person perform a test as to what the group wants to see, and to distribute
the back the desired test results. This is the path to group learning and understanding of function
by principles. Simple construction techniques of post application of more "good ideas" doesn't work. 

..S..MarkSCoffman

[MileHigh]

MarkS:

Is this all your own prose?   To me it looks like it might be text copied from a manual somewhere that you then annotated yourself.  If that's the case, can you upload the manual?

MileHigh