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Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal

Started by hanon, August 13, 2013, 08:01:16 PM

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ramset

MH
Your creepy guy pic is gonna give me nightmares..

So to summarize we have two fellows here Nelson and Clarence that have seen
energy come into this "Captor" from a completely autonomous
battery driven system...and both say that the system runs
when there is no great power consumption [or heat]
present.

a simpler arrangement would be hard to imagine .

@TinMan
"Free Energy"" ??
that's a Trap my friend....
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

nelsonrochaa

Quote from: MileHigh on April 20, 2015, 09:57:04 PM
Nelson,

Here is a slightly cleaned up Google Translate:  (I may also make some mistakes in the clean up.)

<<<
   It may be easier to translate Portuguese to English for you to understand without translation errors.
On the subject I believe that B & L circuit is an overunity circuit.
I say with conviction the current loop is not measured in the output current. I have explained what is its function.
Without going into detail, it only serves to saturate the core of the toroidal transformer. for this reason as always said
for me is not a overunity circuit.  However I did not hear anyone say they did not notice curious and positive behaviors during the tests I did based on my interpretation of the circuit operation.
In the tests we have conducted with my circuit 220V 50Hz AC, I observed that the use of inductive loads dropped about 80% and purely resistive loads 50% to 55%. Not being "scientific" in my conclusion and in my explanation is clear that these are very small results, when the important thing is overunity.
Regarding tests on AD, I even using an identical configuration of equipment.
Different but converging paths.
In my country the houses are built from the ground to the roof and not the opposite.
I have no interest in dwell into details even by professional issues. Do not miss "Gurus" to explain what ever seen, talking than ever tested but with a certainty, Novela not lacked.
>>>

I still don't know what you mean by the drops of 80% and 50% to 55% for inductive or resistive loads.  It is not important.  I will just repeat something to you that I posted a few weeks ago.  I have 38 years of direct and indirect experience in electronics.  From my experience and knowledge I am telling you this is a scam and the replicators are chasing after a false dream.

Esta é uma farsa.

MileHigh
Hi ,
The translation is not very good because google translator don't apply the grammatical sentences correctly .
I say i the sentence  that i believe that B&L circuit is not a Overunity system  . ok ?
No more mistakes in translation.:)   
About the original B&L videos the current measured in loop for me  is not the real "power" available and this is only to induce people in error a to think that high current will put lots of Watts out but not. the loop is only a way of saturate the core .
This is a Saturate reactor with feedback .!
The reactor that i made to AC grid use only one core , and in my circuit even not a overunity device , have some interesting results.
The reactor can me made with more than one core .
I don't put in line your knowledge ok , i never did , i only refute when you say that loop is only a "fat resistor"  because if the loop are correct made it will not dissipate any heat  , and if we don't have heat , you don't have high WATTS consume, we will have a high reactive voltage in primary coil , because when the loop is shorted or feed backed with negative bias it will change the state of the core.
I you have experience in electronics i think maybe you and some people need to put eyes in these themes: Saturable Reactors and MAG Amp , this is very old school man.
I know my videos are bad videos without the tests that people want , but is what i can make and show.
I try my best to show and explain my tests ,  and sure you will see some strange behaviors if you see the videos.
for me the OU is not the most important .
The OU consider the actual lost power in the transfer process  ?
When you convert 12V DC to AC in a circuit inverter to load a resistance charge of 100W in ouput inverter, we will consider that some power is dissipated in conversion process  and will need more than 100W of source to supply the output resistance load  or not? 
reducing this type of losses in present for me is more important :) for me this is a improvement in efficiency.
 
Good luck

MileHigh

Nelson,

If you want to improve efficiency in a power supply design then that's good.  You sate that the device we are discussing is not over unity and that's fine.

With respect to Clarence's device, there has been mass confusion the past two days about how to wind the two toroids.  I am not sure now if they are talking about adding or opposing secondary EMFs.  That's because the participants simply don't know enough about electronics to describe what they are trying to do.

There are three basic options for the toroids:

Note:  We are not talking about your device or your experiments, okay?

1)  The secondary EMFs add together producing very high currents in the secondary winding.  From the primary side, this looks like a short circuit.  There are high currents in both primary windings.  This is the "big fat resistor" that does nothing but dissipate power.

2) The secondary EMFs are equal and opposite to each other.  In this case no current flows in the secondary winding.  The captor looks like a very large inductance, almost an open circuit.  Very little current flows in the primaries and very little power is dissipated.

3) The secondary EMFs are opposite to each other but one is slightly larger than the other.  In this case a moderate amount of current will flow through the secondary loop.  It would not take much of a difference between the opposite EMFs to produce a very high current in the secondary such that it also looks like a "big fat resistor."

They simply don't know what they are doing on the EF thread so the issue remains unresolved.  You assume most of the participants are lurking here and reading this thread.  However, we know how much of a mind-control straight-jacket the Energetic Forum is and how much oppressive peer pressure there is on that thread so don't be surprised if nobody dares state they have been reading here.

MileHigh

MileHigh

Here is the big profound thought of the day for our friends on the Energetic Forum thread:

I have a toroid and the primary winding on the coil is "clockwise."

If I reverse the two wires I have connected to the "clockwise" primary coil, then it looks exactly like a counter-clockwise wound coil even though it is wound "clockwise."

Hence:  It does not matter if the primary or the secondary windings are "clockwise" or "counter-clockwise."  All that you have to do is make the proper connections to the coils with your two wires to get the results you are looking for.

That's why for transformers we use the "dot convention."  The dot convention eliminates the mass confusion.

P.S.:  You don't have to be a rocket scientist to know this.  All that you have to do is apply the right-hand rule.