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Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims

Started by TinselKoala, August 24, 2013, 02:20:03 AM

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TinselKoala

No comments?

How about this then: TK's Quantum-17 Charge Dump.

The basic Ainslie Quantum-17 circuit, but with the 555 timer DPDTd to the TKmode NOT the Ainslie mode..... the circuit draws less than 10 mA in continuous operation and makes very narrow spikies but does not heat the load perceptibly. Reducing the 12volt power to the NE555N down to 9V or below causes the timer/mosfet combo to make the exact "aperiodic" oscillations that Glen and Aaron showed in 2009-2010, but these cause more current drain, some load heating and a bit faster charging of the cap, but are not necessary for the Charge Dump; they are a Red Herring as far as efficiency is concerned. It is neat to see the alternating longer and shorter pulse durations that the timer produces under these conditions, though.

Using the MUR1560 ultrafast highcurrent diode, rather than a 4000-series rectifier, for the "flyback" or charge dump diode results in a faster charge rate to a higher voltage on the cap. The NE-2 and resistor prevent overcharging the 200 V cap: the NE-2 fires at about 125 V and drains the cap back down to about 75 V every forty seconds or so. For now, this represents wasted power; it is just a safety feature to prevent inadvertent overcharging of the 200V capacitor, and in "charge dump recycle" operation it should never fire.
The "recycle" single-pole, double throw switch at top left connects the battery positive pole to the load coil for normal operation and charging the cap, OR to the cathode of the 1n4007 diode, dumping the cap charge back into the battery.
By monitoring the voltage on the cap and operating the switch when the cap is over 60 volts or so, the battery can _apparently_  be made to charge itself. Last night I took my battery supply from 24.4 volts back up to 24.6 volts by manually operating the switch fifty or sixty times, each time as the cap voltage went over about 60 or 80 volts.
It may be possible to automate this process (flipping the SPDT switch) and I will appreciate suggestions as to how to accomplish it.
8)

Magluvin

Quote from: Pirate88179 on September 07, 2013, 03:57:59 PM
Geeze, now she is bashing Stefan Hartman.  What the heck did he ever do to Rose?  This is a real mind bender.  I would like to see the list of folks that Rose has NOT bashed.  I am sure it is a very short list and getting shorter every day.

I may offer T-shirts on my website that say: "I got bashed from Little Miss Mosfet".  Evidently, my target market is a huge one and growing every day.  I could sell thousands.  Given enough time, she will alienate every person on the planet.  Even then she will still insist that she is right, and everyone else is wrong.

Mr. Underunity

Well, she is mad because Stefan would close her threads due to a large part of those threads were just fights and bashing, compared to showing and proving, which most of the proving was done by Poynt, TK, etc, by actually doing tests. All while Rose just typed away. Well, youve seen it.

She was always given warnings from Stefan to get on with it, and she just kept fighting and bashing anything in sight, in 'complete' disregard for the warnings even if there were more than one warning.

The strange thing is, now the cats out of the bag, why the continued bashing? We were wrong for understanding that she was wrong before she knew she was wrong??  She is mad. A womans scorn. ;)   

It aint over by a long shot. Its best to not be involved, unless you 'really' have the time to invest and just cannot find anything better to do. ::) ;) ;D

Mags

Pirate88179

Mags:

I agree.  I have already been labeled by Rose as Mr. Underunity.  No one will ever change her mind.  It is a fool's errand.  Best to move on like you said.  I really think that she is not a nice person.

Mr. Underunity
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

Groundloop

Quote from: TinselKoala on September 08, 2013, 08:26:03 PM
No comments?

How about this then: TK's Quantum-17 Charge Dump.

The basic Ainslie Quantum-17 circuit, but with the 555 timer DPDTd to the TKmode NOT the Ainslie mode..... the circuit draws less than 10 mA in continuous operation and makes very narrow spikies but does not heat the load perceptibly. Reducing the 12volt power to the NE555N down to 9V or below causes the timer/mosfet combo to make the exact "aperiodic" oscillations that Glen and Aaron showed in 2009-2010, but these cause more current drain, some load heating and a bit faster charging of the cap, but are not necessary for the Charge Dump; they are a Red Herring as far as efficiency is concerned. It is neat to see the alternating longer and shorter pulse durations that the timer produces under these conditions, though.

Using the MUR1560 ultrafast highcurrent diode, rather than a 4000-series rectifier, for the "flyback" or charge dump diode results in a faster charge rate to a higher voltage on the cap. The NE-2 and resistor prevent overcharging the 200 V cap: the NE-2 fires at about 125 V and drains the cap back down to about 75 V every forty seconds or so. For now, this represents wasted power; it is just a safety feature to prevent inadvertent overcharging of the 200V capacitor, and in "charge dump recycle" operation it should never fire.
The "recycle" single-pole, double throw switch at top left connects the battery positive pole to the load coil for normal operation and charging the cap, OR to the cathode of the 1n4007 diode, dumping the cap charge back into the battery.
By monitoring the voltage on the cap and operating the switch when the cap is over 60 volts or so, the battery can _apparently_  be made to charge itself. Last night I took my battery supply from 24.4 volts back up to 24.6 volts by manually operating the switch fifty or sixty times, each time as the cap voltage went over about 60 or 80 volts.
It may be possible to automate this process (flipping the SPDT switch) and I will appreciate suggestions as to how to accomplish it.
8)

Hi TK,

>>and I will appreciate suggestions as to how to accomplish it.

You can try something like this. PS: Must be a TIC106D because of the low triggering current needed.

GL.

TinselKoala

Thanks GL... that's a good idea, having the firing of the NE2 triggering the thyristor.... But there has to be some way of disconnecting the coil so that the cap discharge goes only into the battery and can't be shunted by the coil. It would be nice to have a "double throw" thyristor!
I'll see if my local supplier has any, if he does I'll test it in the circuit mod you suggest. Thanks!
But I still need to disconnect everything but the battery during the "dump" if it is to work right. I don't need extra power dissipation in the load -- load heating -- but I would like to make the battery "self-charge". If the basic concept tests out I'll just eliminate the "heat" aspect, put in a heavier inductor and see what happens. Soon I expect to discover a Bedini battery charger or something like that in there!
;)