Rosemary Ainslie Quantum Magazine Circuit COP > 17 Claims

[Pirate88179]

No, Rose will use something else like white oil, liquid paraffin,, pariffinum liquidum, and liquid petroleum or Baby oil so as to not replicate TK's work.  However, all of the above are other names for mineral oil but, let's not let the facts enter into this.  She never has before.  She will claim that she discovered this new liquid that is easy to measure temperature rise.  Just watch.

Bill

[TinselKoala]

I hope she does use Castrol GTX. May I suggest 20W-50?

Castrol GTX motor oil consists of two main ingredients. There's base oil (85-90%) and performance additives (10-15%).  Pay attention now because you never know when a buddy with a dirty, clogged-up engine might ask.  The base oil is derived from crude oil.

http://www.castrol.com/castrol/genericarticle.do?categoryId=9014502&contentId=7017078

http://datasheets.bp.com/ussds/amersdsf.nsf/0/740CD019AA22FD6A80257B5800527847/$file/197834Castrol%20GTX%20High%20Mileage%2020W-50.pdf

How much energy does it take to raise the temperature of one gram of Castrol GTX by one degree C?

[MarkE]

No, Rose will use something else like white oil, liquid paraffin,, pariffinum liquidum, and liquid petroleum or Baby oil so as to not replicate TK's work.  However, all of the above are other names for mineral oil but, let's not let the facts enter into this.  She never has before.  She will claim that she discovered this new liquid that is easy to measure temperature rise.  Just watch.

Bill

Bill if she uses any fluid that is clear and insulating, that has sufficient dielectric strength for the voltages she applies and  that does not have such a high dielectric constant or dielectric loss so as to cause problems then she will be able to show her unit operating and she will be able to measure the heat evolved from everything that she submerges in the fluid from the fluid temperature rise.  Since they don't know anything about the electrical properties of materials they would be wise to use a material that is well understood and has been used by others such as mineral oil poured into a clean dry vessel.   My guess is that they thought about using motor oil because they were unfamiliar with mineral oil. 

To Ms. Ainslie and her supporters:  There are hobbyists who submerge entire PC motherboards in mineral oil "aquariums" and circulate the mineral oil for cooling.  Mineral oil is one homogenous electrically well understood material.  It is readily available, and will meet your needs far better than a non-homogenous material such as motor oil. 

[Pirate88179]

Bill if she uses any fluid that is clear and insulating, that has sufficient dielectric strength for the voltages she applies and  that does not have such a high dielectric constant or dielectric loss so as to cause problems then she will be able to show her unit operating and she will be able to measure the heat evolved from everything that she submerges in the fluid from the fluid temperature rise.  Since they don't know anything about the electrical properties of materials they would be wise to use a material that is well understood and has been used by others such as mineral oil poured into a clean dry vessel.   My guess is that they thought about using motor oil because they were unfamiliar with mineral oil. 

To Ms. Ainslie and her supporters:  There are hobbyists who submerge entire PC motherboards in mineral oil "aquariums" and circulate the mineral oil for cooling.  Mineral oil is one homogenous electrically well understood material.  It is readily available, and will meet your needs far better than a non-homogenous material such as motor oil.

Mark:

As always, I am still learning.  Before I made the above post I looked up mineral oil and found all of the other names it goes by.  (I had no idea) I was amazed to find that baby oil is just mineral oil with a scent added.  My bet is that Rose will use mineral oil, which has proven thermal properties, which is good.  I was just speculating that she would call it something else so as to not appear be taking TK's suggestion.  I was also guessing that she might not know all of those other names for the same oil.  A good test with good scientific practices is always welcome, and I do hope that she does this.

Bill

[MarkE]

Bill, the one thing that I disagree with TinselKoala on is Ms. Ainslie's faith in her claims.  I think that she really believes them.  That leads me to believe that she really does expect some experiment to vindicate her ideas.  I believe that she is motivated to try as she can to conduct legitimate experiments.