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44 Times More Power Output than Input

Started by e2matrix, September 04, 2013, 01:10:28 PM

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MileHigh

It's way too much effort to digest this whole thing.  But I did watch the first 14 minutes of the video clip and I lightning-skimmed through the pdf.

The verdict isn't good.  It's the phenomenon of "what you see before your eyes is what you are supposed to see," at play on a larger scale.  It's an amplified version of the case when a beginner plays with a coil and sees high voltage spikes.  They can be shocked (emotionally) and amazed at what they are seeing.  They can believe that it's "cold electricity" or some kind of zero point energy being extracted from the vacuum.

They are looking at the response of an electro-mechanical filter to different excitation frequencies.  Strange looking phenomena appear to be happening as they play with their generator frequency, etc.  These things are not easy to analyze, but they can be simulated in pSpice if you have the required knowledge to construct the circuit and provide the excitations, etc.

There wasn't any language in the first 14 minutes that was confidence inspiring and they get into the "Aether field" as a "third field" and they talk about Rodin coils.  Dropping like a lead balloon!  lol

I didn't even get to the measurements.  But just from looking at it I can see that it's a pipe dream to think this device outputs 44 times the input.

The Bad News Bear strikes again.  Sorry.

MileHigh

Magluvin

Seems like a 'far out' idea.  :o

Just the initial idea of experimenting, he found a new and different way of converting from electrical to mechanical. And then to add the motors.

Will look at the pdf more. Looks like a lot of work was put into it.

Mags

e2matrix

    A surprising jump to conclusion Milehigh for so little study on this.  I can't see discounting this based on your lack of any real analysis of all the details the author has provided.   It seems he has really done his homework and while he mentions ZPE and Rodin coils I'd hardly consider that a good reason to conclude he has nothing of interest.    Based on details later in the PDF it seems he has gone to a lot of trouble to cover all bases.   I still haven't read the whole thing but I did find his statement about self looping :  " At some point, an experiment should be constructed with 555 Timers and Op-Amp power transformer circuits run off a battery, where the output could be reapplied to the input. "  which I assume is his way of saying he believes it could self run or be looped or that it at least has the potential to do so.   
   I think for myself it is worth giving it a deeper look and some more discussion -- possibly with the author by email too.   It's really not that hard to put together a circuit to try the looping part as the author mentioned. 

Pirate88179

Quote from: e2matrix on September 05, 2013, 12:01:45 AM
   
I still haven't read the whole thing but I did find his statement about self looping :  " At some point, an experiment should be constructed with 555 Timers and Op-Amp power transformer circuits run off a battery, where the output could be reapplied to the input. " which I assume is his way of saying he believes it could self run or be looped or that it at least has the potential to do so.



Exactly right.  And, as TK mentioned, this self-looping idea came as a sort of aside.  Gee, I have 44 more output than in....I guess someone (not me of course) could design a circuit to have this self run.

Does this really make any sense to you E2?  I mean, the good folks on OUdotcom would be thrilled, totally thrilled mind you, to have anything that was 100.000001% efficient.  This guy says he has something 44 times better than that and...yes, I guess it could be self-looped one day....by someone else....I suppose.

I am just saying that this defies credibility.  Plus, do remember that his paper was only # 2 over there.  I am still waiting for the #1 guy to post over here.

I watched the entire video and the only thing I took away from that was his introduction where he was to present the 2nd place paper.  Well, that and the self-looped part as a sort of after thought.  I would have thought that to be the goal from the get go.

Bill              (Bold type in quote added by me)
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tak22

Found this after a bit of digging ...


http://www.worldsci.org/pdf/abstracts/abstracts_6823.pdf


QuoteAbstract:

In the paper, "Experiment on the Linear Increase in Efficiency with Multiple Moving Magnets over Pulsed Inductors" I, the author, described and measured an experimental apparatus in attempt to discover whether or not the efficiency of such a system would increase linearly with an increase in the number of generator-turning magnets and an increase in frequency, as previous experiments had suggested the hypothesis could very well be valid. The result was that it increased exponentially, and that aspect of the paper remains intact despite the measurement error. By filtering the input power (but not the output power) to the system, such that at each increase in frequency the input power would in turn reduce with an output power increase, such a successful experiment would surely be telling of an over-efficient system, perhaps even self-sustaining systems could be a practical technological reality. While the apparatus design was successful, an important input measurement error was discovered, thus the experimental results will need to be retested and the paper appended...