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Overunity Machines Forum



Can a PMM rotor generate enough usable electricity to escape the "sticky point"?

Started by carlprad, September 17, 2013, 02:24:26 PM

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Liberty

Quote from: TechStuf on September 17, 2013, 06:53:17 PM
LE is right about one thing,  "don't waste your time".  As for a magnetic field being conservative, it is until it isn't. "they" also said that a vehicle cannot move down wind, faster than the wind, using only the power of the wind.....yet today they now do so at 3 times the wind speed (and more). 

"they" also said steam power was conservative.  Yet Griggs's hydrosonic pump puts out appreciably more energy as heat than it takes in as electricity.

No.  Magnetic fields are not only conservative.  They are relatively conservative.  Big difference.  The V-gate doesn't work because it's researchers are not adequately apprised of the methodology necessary to properly exploit the scales and modalities of efficiency required to see positive gains.  The V-gate makes very poor use of magnetic flux energy. 

Instead of thinking, "how can I make magnets move themselves eternally?"  Think, "How can I move magnets the least to make their fields change the most?"

Then comes the "aha".....

And then, one is encouraged to dwell on the perpetual aspects.




TS

"Instead of thinking, "how can I make magnets move themselves eternally?"  Think, "How can I move magnets the least to make their fields change the most?""

How about some more specifics on this?  Do you have some example pictures/drawings so we can see what you are talking about?
Liberty

"Converting Magnetic Force Into Motion"
Liberty Permanent Magnet Motor

TechStuf

First, consider the magnetic field as an open/closed system.  A permanent magnet by itself, is a closed system as currently taught.  (Ironically, according to the misdirections taught at the "universities",  their own field models preclude conservation.)  This is done by leading students to believe that the common dipole is comprised of flux quanta emanating SOLELY from one pole and entering the other.

Are they really that unaware?  OR, are they simply counting on their students remaining unaware that there is more?  A simple test proves their field models are wrong.  One has only to bring two PMs into close proximity with like poles repelling...finally forced to make physical contact against their will, to disprove their enforced notion.

How does this disprove the model?  If one cannot see how for themselves, then anything I might be motivated to share further is moot.

If, however, one is able to get close enough to peek through even this single, one way example (among many) of their maliciously overpriced fun house mirrors....


TS

“For the wisdom of this world is foolishness before God. For it is written, “He is THE ONE WHO CATCHES THE WISE IN THEIR CRAFTINESS” - 1 Corinthians 3:19

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/sixpointedstar.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBjOs-egFMs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WSGwnz7XpY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l39XsMcyvgA

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/09/297062.shtml

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjjIy1DO0gs

We all have the choice to waste ourselves in rebellion or to gain wisdom.  Therefore, gain wisdom:

http://www.hisremnant.org/eby/articles/kingdom/twohands/twohandsof.html

LibreEnergia

Quote from: TechStuf on September 17, 2013, 09:55:48 PM
lol.  Only with those who've already judged it indisputable.

TS

As I've said before.. show me where it is wrong then.

You haven't got the slightest clue do you.

TechStuf

QuoteYou haven't got the slightest clue do you.

lol.....On that we can certainly agree.


TS
“For the wisdom of this world is foolishness before God. For it is written, “He is THE ONE WHO CATCHES THE WISE IN THEIR CRAFTINESS” - 1 Corinthians 3:19

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/sixpointedstar.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBjOs-egFMs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WSGwnz7XpY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l39XsMcyvgA

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/09/297062.shtml

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjjIy1DO0gs

We all have the choice to waste ourselves in rebellion or to gain wisdom.  Therefore, gain wisdom:

http://www.hisremnant.org/eby/articles/kingdom/twohands/twohandsof.html

elecar

LibreEnergia, respectfully I believe you did not read the OPs post correctly. It appears that the OP is asking whether it is possible to derive enough power from a single turn of a PMM to be able to use that power to escape the sticky spot.

Perhaps a generator driven by the PMM could be geared many times to 1 where it could store energy in say a cap and that energy released via a coil at the gate. There are some examples of PMMs giving very good torque on a single rotation.

I would say it may be possible regardless of magnets having conservative fields.