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Self Running Motor Generator - for sale in 3 weeks

Started by e2matrix, September 30, 2013, 01:27:23 PM

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e2matrix

As an afterthought to one of my above questions for valy.   It might be easier for him if we suggested he make another brief video showing the unit running while completely disconnected from external power and then having the unit shut off and then tilted over slightly on each side with the camera showing a closeup under the boards so everyone can see there are no wires going to it hidden under them.   

MileHigh

E2matrix:

Like I posted on another thread:

At 1:03 the guy unplugs the small motor.

At 1:06 the guy reaches over and switches on the large motor.

You can hear the switch close!  The drop in speed that you can easily hear stops.

It's that simple.  He reaches over and flips a switch on the control panel near the big motor.  Look at the way the bench is made, the wire runs under the 2x4 and then it is snaked up the square-tubular frame of the bench.  It emerges in the nest of wires and whatnot underneath the control panel.  So from the start of the clip when he gets it going with the small motor and is careful to not trip his breaker, to the end of the clip, the setup is powered from the mains  power essentially the whole time except for the three seconds when he does the switchover.

That's what's happening in that clip. 

MileHigh

e2matrix

MH,  I just wrote a reply on your thread you started on this but since you are here now I'll say yes I'm aware of all that but I assume he needs to flip the switch to transfer input and outputs to a different configuration once it is unplugged.   Flipping the switch in itself proves nothing.   But I fully agree there is some possibility he could have a hidden external wire under a board.   Even though to me it just looks like a shadow I agree he needs to clearly show it elevated or make it obvious in another video that there are no external wires going to the unit as I suggested in the last two posts I made.   
Have you read the web page I posted back a few posts on how one can get more power from a flywheel?  ( http://www.resonantfractals.org/Magnetism/Flywheel.htm )   What are your thoughts on that?   

MileHigh

E2matrix:

I read some of the document and skimmed through the rest.  The stuff about analyzing a flywheel at the atomic nanoscale is not convincing.  Here is where you just trust your instincts and your senses.  Do you think that you can get more out than in for a flywheel?  What about a shopping cart that you push through the supermarket?  Both a flywheel and a shopping cart are just energy stored in the form of moving mass.

The flywheel can be modeled as an inductor or a capacitor.  If you think about a flywheel as an energy storing device that may help some demystify the whole idea.

MileHigh

e2matrix

MileHigh,   thanks for your reply on that.   It was a page I just stumbled across I had saved while looking for something else.   It sounded fair but a little bit out there in some ways.   But it hints at what I've been picking up from other sources regarding flywheels.   I think a much better explanation can be found here:  http://www.backgauges.com/Gen-E-Sys%20II/wpimages/wped62b58c_06.png    and in a lot of other pages on that site.   I think the text from that picture gives evidence of a way flywheels can be used to get extra energy out of a system. 
Because the text in that picture is fairly hard to read due to it's low resolution I took the time to type it out (OCR didn't work on it) :


"5 KEYS OF UNDERSTANDING

THE LIBERTY ENGINE - ELE - SELF SUSTAINING POWER PLANT CONCEPT IN A NUTSHELL

1.  Comprehending Newton's 2nd law of motion.   Understanding that kinetic energy (KE)
QUADRUPLES with each doubling of velocity of a constant amount of mass in motion.

2.  Having and using a system of a SIMPLE mechanics that provides at least two distinctly
different speeds and directions for the mass to travel, with each having a minimum of
2:1 ratio of difference in speed.  Lift vs. Drop, lift to develop potential energy (PE)
position is at least two times lower velocity than the velocity of the mass in motion
traveling to developed kinetic energy (KE) position.

3.  Having and using a system of SIMPLE mechanics that provides a method of capture,
transmission, and storage of developed kinetic energy (KE) in a flywheel rotating at a
designed speed.

4.  Having and using a system of SIMPLE mechanics that provides kinetic energy (KE) to
the mechanics used to lift or recycle the mass back to the potential energy (PE) position
while drawing less energy than is developed by the descending mass and less than the
kinetic energy (KE) which is stored in the flywheel(s).

5.  Having and using a SIMPLE motor and generator in the system that run each other, with
the above mechanics in between developing power to add a designed amount of additional
energy (both PE & KE) that then becomes surplus and such surplus can be drawn of as
electrical power for work outside the system.

Footnote:
  Understanding that if you do not understand what is being revealed, or do not have facilities
  to construct and on your own you can still have a power plant yourself and learn it all by several
  different methods.

   a.  Hire someone who does understand it to help you until you do understand.
   
   b.  Contract with someone to build the parts or an entire powerplant for you."


NOTE:  The above text is not from valy or about the system in the opening post.   It is a system that may have some similarities but is from a different person and web site which I believe has a lot more info on how such a system may actually work.     As stated above it is from here:  http://www.backgauges.com/Gen-E-Sys%20II/   This is OU member Temporal Visitor's web site.