Self Running Motor Generator - for sale in 3 weeks

[tinu]

 Hi E2,

You're welcome. If there is more related to my country and/or language, I'll be glad to help for this topic as well as for others. 

Since I see you believe so much in the chance of OU here, I'll try to give him a phone call, either tomorrow or the day after. If you have specific questions, please PM me or post them here. If real deal, are you interested in purchasing a system or shall I speak for myself in an attempt to get their agreement for a visit to their workshop (visit which I see not only helpful for the case but the only way to solve it)? Please note that his youtube account http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTM_EQim5JE has interesting comments. Unfortunately answers are in Romanian language but here are some of them:

Misha25able: What principle in two words?
valy valentin: Mechanics
Misha25able: Thanks. But where energy source? Is gravity?
No answer

Petventures: If this is legit it could change the world and you could become one of the wealthiest inventors of all time
valy valentin: You're right. Thanks.

jpmastertech: Ohhh and a Rotorverter motor from my uncle Jose Torres(the original inventor)
valy valentin: Possibly yes, but I have no knowledge about your uncle
valy valentin: But then tell me more about him

Donald Tejones: something hiding underneath on wooden board right footer through under the table...remove it wooden board to prove it no hidden wire to power the tools should be test
django4444: yes, you are right. There is a hidden wire, at 2:44 you can see where it comes out of the frame , then leads into the box. clearly a Fake imo
valy valentin: That box is a capacitor for stabilizing the current spikes.
Note: he admits there are hidden cables!

theoneagain: looks promising pal whats the deal using power caps or what?
valy valentin: I don't understand the translation. Write in Spanish
Note: Voila, like I assumed you may write him in Spanish. Google translate does a good job for Spanish but very bad for Romanian language (at least at present times).

ady0187 (Ro): Ok, I can't wait but aren't you afraid because of the "men in black"to sell such device? (Note: the original comment is written in Ro, hence the brackets after the username)
valy valentin: My darling, but I'm not selling anything for the moment. First of all I want to document it, to fill in for a patent and then we'll see. (1 week ago)
Note: So, is he selling it or not?! Because a refuse to sell after advertising is a sign of fraud: avoidance.

ady0187 (Ro): Hello. I'm member of a foreign site and they discuss about your generator in particular being ..."scam" and having hidden wires under the wooden board on the right side. I too agree it looks suspicious of having that board placed under a box? Explanations?
valy valentin: Yes, you're right but in several days the generator will be completed a you'll see everything is true. (1 week ago)
Note: Is ady0187 here or he is on another OU forum? Please, I'm too lazy to look for members. I suppose he's elsewhere; a week ago current topic did not exist here.

theoneagain: to good to be true defenitely a HOAX !!!
valy valentin: It is true.
Note: I assume he wanted to say ""it is for real"

theoneagain: il need to see this running with my own eyes
valy valentin: ok

mihaisl (Ro): How much would it cost your machine? (2 months ago)
valy valentin: Current device is not yet completed. I'm still working on it. It is a 28kW out of which 3kW is for itself. What you see is for testing; when finalized it will weight around 1000kg. My price is 1EUR per watt meaning 10kW=10000EUR.
Note: Well, is he selling or not? Or is it that two months ago he wanted to sell it and by the time he replied to ady0187 (1 week ago, look above) he has changed his mind already?!
Another note: It seems from the above he believes an electrical generator takes same amount of mechanical power regardless of the load. I had the same feeling in the movie I've transcript above, where he uses a 2.5kW load as a "fact" but that flex motor is probably running idle on 50W or less... It looks bad. But at least we know that it takes 3kW to spin a big flywheel.

There are few more interesting comments but I'll stop here. Unfortunately, my assumption he has education as an electrical technician is probably wrong. He does not seem to know what the value of a capacitor is:
MsAndru79 (Ro): I would be interested to know the capacitance of the capacitor.
valy valentin: Capacitor 13857v 125kv  50hz
neither clearly what a capacitor is used for and how in AC:
MsAndru79 (Ro): And how is the capacitor used? In series or parallel circuit?
valy valentin: Capacitor is for "reactive" and as "voltage mediator".
nor he is acquainted with "my uncle" Mendeleev:
MsAndru79 (Ro): I assume your generator is built using neodim magnets
valy valentin: Yes, the generator is built using neodium magnets.

That's all for today E2 and folks.
I hope you'll enjoy as much as I had a really good laugh while writing it here.

Have fun,
Tinu

[gotoluc]

Great translation job Tinu!!!

I don't think he is the brain behind how this really works. He must of been given the information on how to build it or he has a friend that is camera shy who built it for him.

Noticed he said the magic word: reactive

At least he knows on what principle it's working on!

I guess I'm the only one seeing that and the unusual part on the unit.

Luc

[gotoluc]

Ok, I'll gave my face to be punched.. and probably I'll be called crazy, but doesn't matter....
One year ago I started a project and I stopped before to test. I got sick and I could barely walk.
Anyway. The project is similar to this one and I have 2 options:
1) Disassemble ( is in the back yard and my wife is mad with me)
2) Go ahead and test, making the necessaries changes to speed up to the nominal generator speed. ( I need to review the sheaves sizes)
The motor is a 4 poles, single phase 1 hp. The generator is 7.5 kw.
What do you think?

In the second post on this page  I have explained the possible principle this unit is working on.

Your device will not work with just a flywheel.

You will have to understand what reactive power is, how to create a circuit that will maintain it and send it to your prime mover.

Luc

[ariovaldo]

In the second post on this page  I have explained the possible principle this unit is working on.

Your device will not work with just a flywheel.

You will have to understand what reactive power is, how to create a circuit that will maintain it and send it to your prime mover.

Luc

As I said, I didn't test and adjustment is necessary in the system. Also I'm very aware about reactive and I will be testing several configurations.
Thanks

[e2matrix]

Thank you once again tinu for your interpretations!   valy seems to be confusing some questions about what some think is a wire under the board with the HV capacitor.   And his reply on the capacitor value is either a misunderstaing, misinterpretation or he does not have even basic understanding of a capacitor,  OR maybe he does not want to share that info.   There are a lot of questions at this point.   I would not be able to purchase a unit myself and especially with shipping costs from Romania.   I also would not be interested in buying one given the terms of needing 60% up front and having to wait up to 90 days.   I think that will put most people off from buying.   But I do know one member here who has been looking to purchase something, likely has the means to do so and may be interested in this if he can see it in person.   I haven't talked to him lately but most people here know Steven Jones - aka PhysicsProf.   He's been looking for some time.   


As far as quesstions to ask valy I think you know the basic things everyone would want to know.   A couple things that come to mind right now:

-  I would ask him what is the box on the handle which appears to have an LCD screen.  Is that a off-the-shelf motor controller or a special circuit?


- Are motors off the shelf or do they need rewiring or reworking?  (was this already answered? - need more coffee   )


- Ask him if he would he please make a video that clearly shows his setup away from any possible external wiring - as in elevated to convince everyone there are not hidden wires going to the unit from an external source. 


- Ask him the Farad value of his 'capacitor'.   


Anyone else with some fairly straight forward questions please post ASAP.  I have the impression he is not willing or able to answer extensive detailed questions about his device, especially if he is seeking to get a patent on it.