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Self Running Motor Generator - for sale in 3 weeks

Started by e2matrix, September 30, 2013, 01:27:23 PM

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e2matrix

     Since Stefan has now posted a video of it and I don't yet see any discussion here about it I'll venture to start some discussion on yet another self runner.   The video is currently the top video on the main page here.   There has been some discussion at the EF forum on this and I managed to get in touch with the guy.   He has this web site :  http://valyenergistar.ro/    where he is selling this device as well as some more traditional energy systems (wind, solar etc.).   He has a 5 year warranty on all his items.   The video of the self runner shows it needs power from the grid to get started (only about 30 seconds) but once started powers itself and additional devices.   It's shown running an angle grinder (usually 10 to 15 amps), a table saw and a welder all of which have fairly high power demands.   The device appears to be another along the lines of a Bedini - Watson motor gen with a big flywheel.  Chas Campbell's device as seen in Patrick Kelly's free energy book is also similar and I've seen at least 4 other devices over the past few years using similar setups.   


   Valky is the inventor apparently.   I've had a couple emails with him and have gotten brief answers.   He speaks Romanian so I've had to write in that language using Google translate to him and his replies come in Romanian.   So far the only answers I've gotten to a number of questions are that it will be ready to sell in 3 weeks and the cost will be 1.20 Euros per watt (or about $1.62 U.S. dollars per watt at current exchange rates.)   The device appears to be quite heavy and I doubt it would be reasonable for anyone in the U.S. to buy one (if they really work as stated) due to shipping costs on top of a fairly high initial price.   On the other hand if one could buy a small unit and already had an inverter/battery bank setup one could use this to keep the battery bank charged and an average home could probably do fine with a small generator like this except for air conditioning and cooking stoves.   One might realize savings after a year or two.   


   However I'm sure the biggest question is does this really work?    Would you be selling something that does not work?   Sure some people would and probably make a couple sales but the world being what it is now with the Internet you won't go too far without being exposed.   And he does have the stated 5 year warranty.   I'm not sure what laws are in place in Europe or Romania to protect consumers but I suspect one could not easily claim that and expect to sell a bogus device and get away with it easily.   
I personally have come across enough info and evidence that there is something in the flywheel and time control effect that I believe this could be the real thing.   
Some people who have used this concept:
Bedini
Watson
Chas Campbell
French company close to selling:  http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Power_JMD  - believed to be a self looped motor generator
Pete Sumarack (Zero Amp technology)
Michael at http://www.backgauges.com/Gen-E-Sys%20II/index.html
A Russian inventor with a complete packaged unit (I was never able to get more info by email but his unit appears to be one of this type)
This device shown in a video appears similar: http://technokontrol.com/en/products/generator.php
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Geoffrey_S._Miller's_Energybat_Labs
Charles (forget the last name but was recently discussed her in the last couple months - home built unit)
and a number of others who for various reasons seemed to have accidents or sudden reversals after going public with their claims.
There are others some of which may or may not have flywheels but this type of device seems to be the type that most attracts the suppressors (call them what you want, MIB's, Oil barron thugs, or whatever) so I tend to believe these devices hold the most promise for providing real usable power.
Anyone here from Romania?   


e2matrix

I see this device has hit the radar of www.peswiki.com .   Sterling said on there the price is one Euro per watt.   

tak22

Hmmm... I wonder why one of the wooden frame supports is longer and runs under the workbench?  :( Surely if you can make such a tidy unit you could cut two pieces of wood to the same length?


tak

ariovaldo

It looks like a normal motor and normal generator.
There is another video that I saw sometimes ago.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=98aiISB2DNw


What do you think?


The configurations looks like approximately the same.


e2matrix

Quote from: ariovaldo on September 30, 2013, 01:55:43 PM
It looks like a normal motor and normal generator.
There is another video that I saw sometimes ago.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=98aiISB2DNw


What do you think?


The configurations looks like approximately the same.


Yes that is yet another one I've seen but forgot when writing the OP.   He may have something also but if I recall his method of showing input and output are lacking as he only shows one I believe.   
I've been looking further at the French company I mentioned above.   They also need to start (at least their Prototype 1) by plugging it into the wall for a minute then once running they unplug it.   They say they are working with lawyers in the U.S. to protect IP and have plans to manufacture it in the U.S. after getting complete testing done (apparently so it can be UL certified?).