OVERUNITY DEVICE

[kooler]

I have done a very similar setup ever since I saw his first video.. I have done so many different circuits to run it with.. no over unity at all.. I even done a lot of circuits with the popular cd4047 ic's and the 555 ic's ..  lucky enough I was able to score a spool of 8 strand x 1000' off ebay for 32$ a 2 year ago to use .. at least I can use the wire for other projects.. my problem was I could get better light from hooking a 12 volt led bulb straight to battery  rather than watch it flicker from the motor itself.. the last two years of my spare time has been testing other peoples devices.. with no luck.. but on the motor side I have found that mixing a ed gray type pulse to a linear motor show some possibly.. but who's really trying .. right..

robbie

[e2matrix]

I can and do always read the descriptions of YT videos (unlike people who comment on mine!). I can also see perfectly clearly in the video itself that the wire is in fact clamped ONTO, not around, the VOLTMETER wire.

Regardless of that, why is there supposed to be any current at all in this wire? No voltmeter that I know about will allow any measurable current to flow through it. If it did, it wouldn't be much good. The whole idea of a voltmeter is that it is a very high impedance device. It allows only the very smallest current to go _through_ it. This is why you can stick the probes into your wall socket and not trip your circuit breaker or blow up your fuses or your voltmeter!

Let's hear an explanation of why he is able to measure current in a voltmeter lead, when there should not be any.  Then let's hear an explanation of why the video clearly shows the clamp ON the wire not around it, and then he cites _that_ measurement (obtained after many button presses showing other values), if he later used another wire.

Or if you prefer, you can just ignore these issues and attack me instead.

What he believes is one thing. Making claims that are unsubstantiated, and _asking for money_ based on those claims, is entirely something else.
The video shows that he cannot make appropriate measurements, or he has a voltmeter that does something nobody else's does. Or perhaps both. What it most emphatically does _not_ show is any credible evidence for his claims, nor any justification for his asking for money or offering something for sale _under false pretences_.

What you suggest as magnetic suspension bearings will not work. It has been tried many times by many people. Unless it is actively stabilized by an electronic control circuit and electromagnet, or by the use of diamagnetic materials,  one end of the axle must bear against a fixed surface. That is why you've never seen one "quite like" the idea you've got: it can't be done, and this is actually provable mathematically (Earnshaw's theorem.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_levitation

Tom states:  "PLEASE NOTE: When I was taking the DC ampmeter reading the negative wire was not pinched in the meters clamps but centered in the middle of the clamp jaws for an accurate reading. I did this test many times and each time the result was the same."   right below the video.   Initially YES you can see he has it pinched but then the video pans down to only the meter readout and you can't see how it is clamped and from the way he appears to be fiddling with it I assume he got the wire in the middle after he panned down as that is what he has stated.   It appeared from all the comments on this that no one had read his statement below the video.   But I agree that unless we have missed what wire he is clamped around that it makes no sense he is getting any readable current of a volt meter wire in the voltage setting. 
I know he believes he has something and thinks it is valid.   He's asking for a very reasonable amount for something HE believes is worth a lot more.   Whether or not he has something really overunity IMO is not a good reason to attack him.   I suggest we help him see where his mistakes might be if he has them.   For sure clamping around the VOM lead is not correct.   In the past I saw Tom go out and buy some much more expensive RMS meters because it was pointed out to him that he was not getting correct readings with his meter he was using.  Over the years I've seen him post things similar to this device and then I believe rather than get into arguments with a bunch of people that seem bent on attacking him rather than helping he just goes away and tries to improve on things.   
In regards to magnetic bearings I'm not sure if you understand what I'm proposing but thanks for the info.   I do not see why my idea would not work but I think it might be hard to stabalize or would at least need some non-metallic rings around the axle (not touching) to prevent things from flying away if it got into a wobble.   It is basically like the setups I've seen that use 3 magnets near each end with one magnet near each end of the axle and then another magnet at the very end of each tip and one against the upright board (or plastic) of the opposite polarity and this setup on each end.   Spaced correctly it would seem there would be a little push from each end keeping the axle centered.   No?   I may need to try this to see what happens as I've certainly got enough magnets to try it with.    Given this description what do you see happening?

[TinselKoala]

Tom states:  "PLEASE NOTE: When I was taking the DC ampmeter reading the negative wire was not pinched in the meters clamps but centered in the middle of the clamp jaws for an accurate reading. I did this test many times and each time the result was the same."   right below the video.   Initially YES you can see he has it pinched but then the video pans down to only the meter readout and you can't see how it is clamped and from the way he appears to be fiddling with it I assume he got the wire in the middle after he panned down as that is what he has stated.   It appeared from all the comments on this that no one had read his statement below the video.   But I agree that unless we have missed what wire he is clamped around that it makes no sense he is getting any readable current of a volt meter wire in the voltage setting. 

OK, if you want to give him the benefit of the doubt and say that he managed to move the clamp just after panning down to see the readings.. fine. He is still punching the reset button until he gets a number he likes, and he is still measuring the voltmeter lead, there are no other wires in the area that he could have moved the meter to. And since he says he gets the same reading whenever he measures it... this indicates to me that he is not measuring properly at all, and he repeats the errors routinely and accepts the data as real.

I know he believes he has something and thinks it is valid.   He's asking for a very reasonable amount for something HE believes is worth a lot more.   Whether or not he has something really overunity IMO is not a good reason to attack him.   I suggest we help him see where his mistakes might be if he has them.   For sure clamping around the VOM lead is not correct.   In the past I saw Tom go out and buy some much more expensive RMS meters because it was pointed out to him that he was not getting correct readings with his meter he was using.

And in this video he shows that he still cannot, or more likely will not, use them properly. You seem to be confused over why I am challenging him (not attacking, by the way). I don't care what he believes, he can believe that his device runs on white smoke for all I care. When he tries to sell his beliefs as fact, that is when I begin to care. He clearly doesn't want help, however much he needs it, or he would be here, engaging with his critics and trying what they suggest. Has he even read the manuals for his meters? They will tell him that he can't measure current in a voltmeter lead! If he can't take the advice from the manuals of his equipment, why should he be expected to take advice from anonymous forum posters?

Over the years I've seen him post things similar to this device and then I believe rather than get into arguments with a bunch of people that seem bent on attacking him rather than helping he just goes away and tries to improve on things.

Improve on "things" like learning how to make better measurements, or on things like making his device produce numbers he likes?

 

In regards to magnetic bearings I'm not sure if you understand what I'm proposing but thanks for the info.   I do not see why my idea would not work but I think it might be hard to stabalize or would at least need some non-metallic rings around the axle (not touching) to prevent things from flying away if it got into a wobble.   It is basically like the setups I've seen that use 3 magnets near each end with one magnet near each end of the axle and then another magnet at the very end of each tip and one against the upright board (or plastic) of the opposite polarity and this setup on each end.   Spaced correctly it would seem there would be a little push from each end keeping the axle centered.   No?   I may need to try this to see what happens as I've certainly got enough magnets to try it with.    Given this description what do you see happening?

I think I do understand what you mean, and what will happen is that the axle cannot be centered stably between the end magnets, whether they are in repulsion or attraction or combinations. One end of the axle has to bear against a rigid support. Even Steorn finally realized this, and used a micrometer head at the top of their Orbo axles. This allowed them to adjust their magnetic bearings for best effect. Please do try it with your magnets, and report your results. I'm genuinely interested in what you come up with.

You may find these videos interesting:
The HV electrostatic, passively magnetically suspended motor:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVfw-TeJ9r4

The active control-looped magnetic suspension system:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkiGTWODERo

[magnetman12003]

Here is the circuit.  Its my hope someone out there replicates it and gets back with me before making  remarks.  Switch S1 should be left open to check for overunity across  the 5 waqtt led lamp.
http://web.mail.comcast.net/service/home/~/?auth=co&loc=en_US&id=947024&part=1
Closing S1 may or may not produce a self runner with 28 volts to the input.
Tom

[magnetman12003]

It's a joke, he doesn't even show a bloody LOAD.  He just makes two measurements, one of which is totally ridiculous and proves that clamp-on meters get pretty scrambled near a coil switching on and off at high frequency.  He doesn't even have any concept of a load, he just makes two measurements and is comfortably numb with respect to the concept of a LOAD.  He ran away right away and has been lurking ever since.  No passing GO, no collecting of $10,000.

MileHigh 
Just show me how YOU can ""FULLY"" light up a 5 watt 120 volt Led lamp using 24 volts dc then have 28 volts  dc across the  same lamp with higher amps than the input has   THE LAMP IS THE LOAD!!!