Building a self looping "SMOT"

[happyfunball]

No, I don't. How hard is it to open up an opening to be wide enough for a ball to drop? I'll bet even you could do it... and I'll bet that if it worked, you would show it working. I know I would!

Come on man, the ball rests in the opening after traversing the loop, and could clearly drop.

I've never seen that, I know you haven't either.

[elecar]

@TK Don't you think the video posted of the ball returning to the original position is proof? Seems to me if the opening were wide enough to let it drop, it would loop. But I could be wrong. Still, returning to the starting point is pretty remarkable. (I realize it's not technically the original spot, but it is above it with enough momentum to drop. It is probably equal to the input required to hold the ball in position and release from a few inches below?)

I don't have the magnets to try it but I bet you do, left over from the Mylow days.

If it is legit this would probably considered a gravity assisted SMOT (?)

Happyfunball feel free to direct your questions to TK, as he is the forum know it all.

But I can assure you the ball will NOT drop from the test track and loop back. The ball needs to be traveling in reverse in the field and be directed away from the field whilst in the weaker section of field. Does not matter how wide the opening is it will not escape the magnetic field as set up on the test track.
And just to be clear I have never stated it would.

[happyfunball]

Happyfunball feel free to direct your questions to TK, as he is the forum know it all.

But I can assure you the ball will NOT drop from the test track and loop back. The ball needs to be traveling in reverse in the field and be directed away from the field whilst in the weaker section of field. Does not matter how wide the opening is it will not escape the magnetic field as set up on the test track.
And just to be clear I have never stated it would.

Ummm... ok...

Well good luck then with whatever it is you have there.

[TinselKoala]

Come on man, the ball rests in the opening. after traversing the loop and can clearly drop.

I've never seen that, I know you haven't either.

Wrong. It can't "clearly drop" and I've seen it many times. Do you think this is the first SMOT we've seen here? The first time even that that design variant has been shown?

Go on, show it dropping, if you can, and repeating the cycle without outside help. I say you cannot.

Why not? What possible reason is there for not showing the complete cycle with the thing running along all by itself over and over?

What reason, other than the fact that it is physically impossible, I mean?

[happyfunball]

Wrong. It can't "clearly drop" and I've seen it many times. Do you think this is the first SMOT we've seen here? The first time even that that design variant has been shown?

Go on, show it dropping, if you can, and repeating the cycle without outside help. I say you cannot.

Why not? What possible reason is there for not showing the complete cycle with the thing running along all by itself over and over?

What reason, other than the fact that it is physically impossible, I mean?

You're not being honest.

It could obviously drop, and no I have never seen a SMOT make it that far. If you have, please point me to a video. Thanks.

Regardless, elecar has now stated it won't loop as shown so... next