Building a self looping "SMOT"

[DreamThinkBuild]

Sorry for delay, for those who wrote earlier been very busy.

Hi Maw2432, Truesearch, Lumen.

Thanks.

Hi All,

These are just some observations from my simple experiments.

- A ball going up an inclined ramp and falling off due to a break or end will lose energy because it is being pulled back by the magnet. It's too close to the field.

- A ball going up a the ramp but has an incline to one side, the ball starts to arc away. This adds a spin to the ball which you can see when the ball hits a stationary object. The best track length to observe this effect 3/4 straight track and the end 1/4 the incline. For a 6" track = 4.5", last 1.5" incline.

- A 2cm diameter steel sphere placed on the track at an incline will push a 4cm diameter glass marble up the slope. When the sphere stops at the end the marble will continue for a while depending on magnets and slope. With a 6" ferrite bar magnet. I tried to get the 2cm sphere to push a 8cm diameter marble garden sphere but it didn't budge.

- I've tried to get two ramps parallel with no luck. The cross fields for the smaller track have been interfering with each other and the fields each have their own non consistent falloff which means one design that works fine for one set of magnets won't work fine for the next set.

- Using a magnetic field detector when you place the steel ball next to a north facing magnet the outside of the sphere will read N and the inside S. As you pull the ball further away from the magnetic field at a certain distance you can no longer measure the north on the furthest side of the sphere but you can measure just the south on the side pointing towards the magnet. This is the breakaway distance.

- I find ferrite magnets are very loose in the field, more of smooth pull than a sharp pull like neos.

- Ferrites have one issue which makes them very hard to work with. The same sized magnets field strengths are inconsistent. This can be tested with the effect above by slowly pulling the sphere away from the magnet and measuring the distance when you start to lose the north field. At around 1.5-2cm with a +/-5mm error was observed from supposedly the same 1"x2"x1/4" block magnets. This may not seem like a lot but when you want to arc away it becomes important, one set will work fine and then next you would have to completely re-measure for the next set.

- Kind of off this topic but I placed the steel sphere at the gate of the MMD track and it pulled the sphere in to the end and stopped. This opens an idea of front loading the MMD rotor with a steel wedge to get it to pull just enough in the gate to get the stronger repelling fields to push it out. It's an untested idea.

Found this patent which is something similar, using steel spheres to give a forward attraction event through the gates once past the gate the repulsion from the magnets takes over to next gate.

WO2011015693: LINEAR TRANSPORT SYSTEM BY MEANS OF PERMANENT MAGNETIC FIELDS   
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=WO&NR=2011015693A2&KC=A2&FT=D

Hopefully some of these observations can inspire a new idea. Right now I don't see it as generating the kind of power to lower the utility bill which is my overall goal.

Sometimes you have to build a problem to see the problem. Happy holidays.

[guest1289]

   I had a theory that if you placed  SMOTS ( or v-gates, or railguns, etc ) all in a single file,  right around a perfectly flat planet,  that it could possibly be a perpetual-motion device.

   So, could that be an experiment for space, to put a perfectly round structure in space,  and then put a single file of SMOTS ( or v-gates, or railguns, etc ), and see if it would function .

   But, maybe it could actually be done on earth.
      -  You could put the SMOTS ( or v-gates, or railguns, etc ) on their sides,  all in a single file,   in a large circle,   and,  maybe the metal-ball  could be placed  into a magnetic-sled  that would glide-above  the stators .
          You could possibly adapt the  magnetic-sled  I posted on   http://overunity.com/16295/all-permanent-magnet-complete-levitation/msg469597/#msg469597

[NathanCoppedge]

To date no one has looped a SMOT,...

Have you tried SMOT without magnets? I have some examples of a proven experiment at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzbuVeHXDrA

Worth a try.

[Pirate88179]

Have you tried SMOT without magnets? I have some examples of a proven experiment at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzbuVeHXDrA

Worth a try.

A SMOT without magnets would be a SOT.

Bill

[TinselKoala]

Have you tried SMOT without magnets? I have some examples of a proven experiment at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzbuVeHXDrA

Worth a try.

No, you don't.