Building a self looping "SMOT"

[elecar]

Hi Elecar,
Could I come to see your working SMOT in place of TK, I would be quite happy to do that as I live in the UK?
I can get mine to loop twice, but that's as good as it gets so far.


Meggerman

Hi meggerman, I know the thread has gone off track but please read posts 542 & 529.

[maw2432]

Hi Bill

Test video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSXhQOrE6dc&feature=youtu.be

Normans track video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHXTFfnon6g&feature=youtu.be


I do not understand the question ? I put a video up and was asked to redo it, that's what I did. The ball travels down the ramp round the bend and into the center of the magnet array even though my previous videos have shown I did not "FLICK" the ball that is the new accusation. I could care less whether I am believed or not but I did not flick the ball the ball was pulled to the side of the ramp where the magnets are.

Hi Elecar,
Thank you for the video.    Sorry,  I am just confused as to where you should start the ball rolling to make sure it is working as you would expect. 
Bill

[elecar]

Hi Elecar,
Thank you for the video.    Sorry,  I am just confused as to where you should start the ball rolling to make sure it is working as you would expect. 
Bill

Bill it has got confusing because the thread is bogged down with nonsense, thats not your fault. In the video of Normans track the ball is released at the top of the ramp on the magnet side, that is because the way Norman designed his track.
On my prototype the ball is released on the down ramp, it does not matter where it is released on the down ramp as it always rolls into the magnet array as demonstrated in the video  here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSXhQOrE6dc&feature=youtu.be

[TinselKoala]

And that's exactly where it stops... except of course those times when, in spite of your post, it doesn't even make it that far.

Keep posting more of these videos... each one just shows you can't produce proof of your claims.


Anyone can clearly see from my still frame captures and from the video itself that they are taken from that you have 1) moved the ball to the LEFT from where you first put it down, storing energy just as if you pulled back on a spring, and 2) that the release position is HIGHER than the ball ever gets again, and 3) that your fingers flick the ball to the RIGHT as you "release" it. Yet the ball only goes one time around the loop. IOW, the video is proof of the fact that you are willing to cheat to get your point across, and/or you don't understand the energy storage in MPE, and/or you don't have motor control of your fingers any more.

Your whining claim that you didn't flick the ball is contradicted by the video itself.

[LibreEnergia]

PM me your email address and I will send you the video that will not load on this forum as it is to large. All I want you to do in return is come back and say you have received the video you have watched it and that you apologize for the statement above. Deal ?

I have examined the video carefully and I cannot discount fraud on your part. There are certain video compression artefacts that re-occur in exactly the same way as the ball loops. This makes me suspect it is a shot of a single loop repeatedly spliced.

I could be wrong, perhaps the repeated motion is creating exactly the same effect at the same time, but I am unconvinced as yet.

If you could provide a video that has an unambiguous forward timeline included then I would perhaps be convinced and prepared to congratulate you on your achievement.

If it is genuine I still don't think it shows over-unity (it stops), However, the apparent losses in the system are much smaller than I would have expected. Although you do not appear to push the ball at the starting point it does have an excess of GPE (due to the release point being higher than the gate.)  That could cause it to complete at least one rotation if friction was low.