Building a self looping "SMOT"

[profitis]

@collosalOA -sarkeizen just short-circuit the thing for 3 weeks man.if it bounces straightup to where twas before then bingo.what battery can withstand this kind of test?answer:none except this one.

[Poit]

the only thing perpetual about this "smot" is the wait... we will be perpetually waiting for it...

[TinselKoala]

Sigh...........
Ohh No! we now have complete overlapping Nasty!!

It doesn't happen often ,however in the past these Nasty anomalies
were dealt with in a Most Brutal fashion!! [The Quinn Wars]

Please try and keep your Nasties in their proper categories,the system is approaching a critical point!!

Very touchy stuff to play with [magnets and smots]
sometimes "Consentrated Evil "    can get into the Mix

Thx
Chet

For some reason profitis won't simply start his own thread on quenco, oxygen batteries or whatever so that people who want to discuss those topics can do so there. He simply starts talking about irrelevant stuff in other threads, just like he's doing now.



Please note that my video SNOT is entirely serious. There is indeed a magnet there, the black thing near the ramp. The ball in the start position is slightly elevated but it is solidly in the "well" or point of maximum attraction to this magnet at the start position. When I lift the wooden "gate", there is no possibility that I am adding any impulse by pushing the ball either to the LEFT (storing MPE as elecar did in his video) or pushing it to the RIGHT (adding a flick of a KE impulse as elecar did in his video). The track itself has a slight hill around where the ramp joins it. When the ball is about to complete the first loop it is again attracted and very slightly sped up by this same magnet, then the ball goes over the slight hill and continues around the track for _another full turn_ plus a bit. SO you here have indeed seen a SMOT that makes over two full turns, by the _exact same principle_ as any other SMOT : it is running on the stored GPE that I put there when I placed the ball in the first place, and the MPE, which is small and "self-cancelling" doesn't really add anything _net_ to the KE of the ball.

If I add magnets in various places would I get more than the 2.2 (about) full loops that I'm getting already? If I manage three full loops will I get a big prize? If not, why not?

No, this is NOT an overunity demonstration. It is a :UNITY: demonstration: all the energy I get out, is all the energy I put in, minus losses.

How much energy is that?
The ball weighs about 13.5 grams. The height of the center of the ball at the release position is about 30.8 mm and the height of the center of the ball as it sits on the track is about 11.5 mm. (heights relative to the baseboard).

So, since GPE is just mgh, we have 0.0135 kg x (0.0308 - 0.0115) m x 9.81 m/s2 = 0.00256 Joule. This is all the energy it takes to run that rough ball more than twice around my poorly made track.

Please check my math. I weighed the ball on a Harbor Freight digital scale, but I could break out a much more accurate balance and get the weight to the milligram if anyone wants me to for some reason. I measured the heights of the center of the ball using a digital micrometer caliper that is precise to the hundredth of a millimeter but obviously I can't locate the ball center to that precision, so you only get three significant digits from my measurements (tenth of a mm on the height, half a gram on the weight).

Do you object to the fact that my starting ramp isn't part of the complete loops? Of course you should.
Are any of the other devices that we have been shown lately subject to the same objection? Of course... they are.

[ramset]

Tinsel
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If I manage three full loops will I get a big prize? If not, why not?
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Where's the Vid ?[Things are going fast over here]

thx
Chet

[TinselKoala]

Tinsel
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If I manage three full loops will I get a big prize? If not, why not?
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Where's the Vid ?[Things are going fast over here]

thx
Chet

Well, you have seen the video that shows over two full loops haven't you? It is linked above.

I have been dealing with other issues today, like YouTube's new and totally fouled up comment system. I can only reply to some comments, other attempts to reply to others tells me I'm "not allowed to reply"... and I can't even leave a comment on my OWN videos! I can of course edit the description and all of that, but this new thing, involving Google+ whatever that is, that just started today afaik, is completely screwed up. (It seems that Google wants to take over all social networking interactions and is making it so time consuming to deal with their garbage that nobody has time for anything else. I know I've spent over six hours just trying to make and reply to comments this morning.)

Personally, I think any "smot" or self-looping magnet-track-ball systems must include the start position in the full loops, so mine should not qualify, and neither should "those others" we've seen that don't even manage to make two full loops. What do you think?