Building a self looping "SMOT"

[sarkeizen]

ok short-circuit it for 6weeks then check if it bounces straight up to its original power.ok short-circuit it for 12weeks and check if it reboots.ok short-circuit it for 24weeks and check if it reboots .ok short-circuit it for 48 weeks and check if it reboots.ok short-circuit it for 96 weeks and check if it reboots.you cant flatten it.you simply can-not even reduce it

So according to you anything that works for 96 weeks must work forever?

[happyfunball]

You have some kind of problem with comprehension. I don't think anyone --  except you -- would say, from reading this thread, that elecar did NOT claim to have a SMOT that was OU, that he was trying to patent it and that he was trying to sell it to a toy company. Further, he pretended to be able to teach us how to make an OU smot ourselves. Just as LibreEnergia and others have pointed out: any SMOT that self-loops is OU. What is the title of this thread?

What he "claimed to SHOW" is different from what he claimed to have.

What he DID show is the video I analyzed, which clearly shows just what I said it does, and I provided evidence for all to examine in the still frames from that video: energy storage in the system, that is all the energy returned, and no evidence of any progress towards a real self looping SMOT.

He also arrogantly claimed other things that aren't true, especially that nobody has ever seen a smot making two full turns. (We will ignore his paranoid accusations that I have "minions" who do my bidding and are interested in suppressing real Overunity... a claim that has been made before, but never with any shred of evidence in support.) Well, now you have seen the evidence that that last statement of his isn't true, and isn't even very difficult to do if one has a bit of skill in building and knowledge of just where losses come from. Most especially, it is easy if the input ramp isn't part of the "looping".

You complain about the cheese? Fine, you don't have to eat it. It's really not very good cheese anyway, a fake "light" mozzarella with basil.
But you DO have to look at the evidence: My apparatus uses a ramp that is not part of the loop; so does the device in elecar's video. My apparatus does NOT provide any extra energy by "cocking the magnetic spring" or "flicking the ball" into the track; elecar's does. My video clearly shows, with no hint of fakery, the ball making more than two full turns around the track... twice; elecar's does not.

Further, we now have a statement from someone who seems to know his business, that another video, clearly presented to LibreEnergia as _proof_ that elecar had what he CLAIMED TO HAVE, which is an OU SMOT self-looping ...... almost certainly has been faked. I haven't seen that video myself... and I don't know LibreEnergia, but his statements are a lot more credible on the face of it than elecar's are.

These are not straw man arguments, there, mister Happyfunball.

Quite the contrary, they are examinations of evidence that elecar himself provided in support of his claims of OU, and which clearly fail to do so. As I said in my analysis, even before LE began his, it appears that elecar may be willing to cheat to get his point across. Such things have happened before, even down to the insults and campaigns against the skeptics like me. Do you not recall Mylow?

In my analysis, supported by frame extracts from the video elecar posted, it can be clearly seen that he places the ball down on the track within the influence of the magnets, then pulls the ball back to the left, storing energy in the magnetic "spring", then flicks the ball to the right, giving it an additional KE boost into the track system. Elecar protests that he did not flick the ball... but the video clearly shows him doing so and the still frames clearly show the position of his fingers when the ball is being released: well to the right of the initial placement of the ball. Nobody but elecar has yet disputed my analysis. 

Furthermore.... we have LibreEnergia's analysis of the other video which nobody else has seen yet, which arguably took more work than mine, and which seems to reveal much more willingness to cheat on elecar's part. Where does any of this fit into the definition of a "straw man" argument? In fact, happyfunball, it is you who are engaging in various fallacious arguments, including the straw man, but more than that, you are attacking ME personally rather than confronting the issues. You have no credibility, and with every insult, every instance of avoiding the issues, you are just proving that point more and more. Where is your work refuting my analysis, refuting LibreEnergia's analysis? Nowhere. Where is your work supporting elecar's claims, which most certainly include claims of OU performance from an apparatus he claims to possess? Nowhere. Instead, you choose, just as I predicted, to carry on your personal attacks against me, and you can't even provide proof or evidence for those. You especially can't provide any evidence of "mendacity" on my part.

Keep it up, you are only proving my points.

Eclair didn't claim that the setup HE SHOWED is OU. TK the attack dog felt the need to 'prove' it does not do what no one ever claimed it does. You complaining about being insulted is amazing. It seems what you considered insulting was being referred to as a megalomaniac. Surely there is no doubt about that being factual.

[profitis]

@sarkeizen aye,yes.any buttoncell that can be shorted for 96 weeks and reboot completely will last forever(except nuclear buttoncells) 

[sarkeizen]

@sarkeizen aye,yes.any buttoncell that can be shorted for 96 weeks and reboot completely will last forever(except nuclear buttoncells)

What?  Now all of a sudden there's like five poorly defined qualifiers on your statement.  Dishonest as usual EOA,

[MeggerMan]

@Elecar
In the remake of the video for LibreEnergia could I suggest that you mark the ball bearing with a permanent marker pen, some dots or stripes.
I found this useful in finding out how the bearing spins slightly on its axis when passing the magnet array.


It is unfortunate that you will be leaving the forum here - can you PM me to let me know where you are going.
It would be great news if LibreEnergia can confirm to us that he has a genuine video that shows the ball completing around 20 loops.
So I look forward to seeing a post from him confirming this.


If you are local to me I could lend you a Sony HD camcorder + tripod to take a better video.


Meggerman