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HHo (Hydrogen) and Diesel Injection...The Truth

Started by markdansie, October 17, 2013, 03:20:15 AM

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tagor

Quote from: Cherryman on October 18, 2013, 06:15:42 PM


Does someone speak italian here? What is he claiming?



http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/nissan/370z/17701/marangoni-370-z-hydro

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Verdict 4  The Marangoni Z-Hydro is designed for those who think a regular Nissan 370Z isn't dramatic enough! With scissor doors, a well judged bodykit and gorgeous 20-inch alloy wheels allied to matt white paintwork, it really stands out. But the visual tweaks are a smokescreen for some genuinely interesting technology, which seeks to reduce harmful emissions and improve fuel economy. Marangoni's claims are almost as dramatic as the Z-Hydro's looks – and we can't wait to see how the science behind it develops.



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Meet the stunning scissor-doored super-coupé that drinks fuel like a supermini!

This incredible machine is the Z-Hydro – a one-off show car that started life as a Nissan 370Z. Thanks to Italian tyre company Marangoni, and a host of its tuning partners, it's now a 155mph eco warrior that does nearly 40mpg and emits only 148g/km of CO2. And Auto Express has driven it.

Regular readers might recall our last meeting with Rome-based Marangoni in Issue 1,046, when we drove the M430 – a modified Alfa Romeo MiTo. Like that car, the Z-Hydro is a very Italian affair. Its Lamborghini Countach-style doors, 20-inch alloys and dramatic bodykit are the work of Florence-based tuning firm TRC Italia, while Marangoni itself has supplied M Power blue-tinted tyres.

Other modifications include lowered suspension and Tar Ox brakes with composite discs, while inside there's lots of blue leather and Alcantara suede. But the most interesting technology is hidden. Mounted behind the gaping front bumper is a clever piece of kit that splits water into oxygen and hydrogen, then injects the gas – oxyhydrogen – into the V6 engine's air intake.

Marangoni's co-development partners, TRC Italia, HydroMoving and Mariani Engineering, say the improved combustion process reduces harmful emissions, such as CO2, by 40 per cent. It also improves fuel economy by the same amount – but maintains the 3.7-litre car's 322bhp. In the future, the Hydro kit could be tuned to deliver more power.

Sound too good to be true? Sceptics argue that the energy required to produce oxyhydrogen exceeds that recouped by burning it. Marangoni rejects this, claiming the process is so efficient that the car is as green as its remarkable figures suggest.

On the move, the changes to the suspension and wheels ensure that, apart from having a firmer ride, the Z-Hydro feels similar to a regular 370Z. The Hydro kit doesn't affect the V6's performance, and it offers muscular urge with lots of low-down torque, while those wide tyres only enhance the handling.

Marangoni plans to offer the Hydro system as a retro-fit kit for around £800, and is even looking at licensing it to major car makers. In the meantime, all the other components are available now – and many owners are sure to be tempted to give their 370Z a dose of extra visual excitement.
Rival: BMW Vision ED
brilliant EfficientDynamics concept combines a 1.5-litre diesel unit with two electric motors to deliver M3 pace with 99g/km emissions and 75mpg economy. The set-up will power BMWs of the future. 
Read more: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/nissan/370z/17701/marangoni-370-z-hydro#ixzz2iBa8EzDC





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* Price: £45,000 (est)
* Engine: 3.7-litre V6 petrol, 322bhp
* Transmission: Six-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
* 0-62mph: 5.3 seconds
* Top speed: 155mph
* Economy: 37.7mpg (claimed)
* CO2: 148g/km (claimed)
* Equipment: Scissor doors, TRC Italia-designed bodykit, blue Alcantara seats, 20-inch alloys
* On sale: Now


ramset

Johan
Thanks for the info,I will be researching the lithium additive and greatly appreciate your offer to answer questions.

have you played with the lithium in an electrolyte to see if the gasses can evolve with less input energy?
thx
Chet
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

ramset

Johan
All my Soaps are coming up Greasy ?
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=lithium+soaps&id=82EE2F19760E3BF4866268A78B04F4F27138C7A5&FORM=IQFRBA

Johan if you could give a link to this one
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Soap based on Lithium changes / lower this temp, to only 1000C, we pay 60 EURO Cents for a liter of this soap.
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I would greatly appreciate it!!
thx
Chet

Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

Johan_1955

Quote from: ramset on October 19, 2013, 04:13:58 PM
Johan
Thanks for the info,I will be researching the lithium additive and greatly appreciate your offer to answer questions.

have you played with the lithium in an electrolyte to see if the gasses can evolve with less input energy?
thx
Chet


Hi Chet,


Sorry for the delay, to much nice work for a old guy ;-))


Lithium contained water for electrolyze, we are not using, because the lithium makes the water >PH.
This Lithium/Water in a ColdFushion with a camber like AtomicHydrogen is great, AirMotor behind it!


Regards, Johan

Johan_1955

Quote from: ramset on October 20, 2013, 05:11:20 PM
Johan
All my Soaps are coming up Greasy ?
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=lithium+soaps&id=82EE2F19760E3BF4866268A78B04F4F27138C7A5&FORM=IQFRBA

Johan if you could give a link to this one
Qoute
Soap based on Lithium changes / lower this temp, to only 1000C, we pay 60 EURO Cents for a liter of this soap.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I would greatly appreciate it!!
thx
Chet


Hi Chet,


We don't have a direct link for the soap, we are purchasing it low profil at a big Supermarket in Spain!


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Like told: In the past we did have more than a bit contact with some different manufactories of soap, when they did hear for what we did use it, result: strange and very difficult behavior with a still non clear price setting, first they wanted to support there labor with a by us payed research, and a liter-price we did not get at the end!


Also experiences like that with a German-US company, in the past we did purchase lots of Peristaltic / dose-pumps, than our request for a different type for fuel use and delay and delay.


Will private mail you later a photo of a by us used Soap-Bottle!


Regards, Johan