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Bashar's Spacecraft Engine

Started by teratologist, November 20, 2013, 04:21:16 PM

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Hope

Quote from: e2matrix on November 20, 2013, 11:29:14 PM
Ahh there you go again putting down something you've never even tried.   Sounds simple enough.   Just need an 8 inch diameter rod of gold and a few other basic items.   That shouldn't be any problem .....   as long as you've got about a spare half million dollars for the gold rod.    ;D
Well maybe copper ....   Ummmm  NO ... copper has gotten stupid expensive too.   Oh well


Bashar is funny as heck to watch but I really think he's just a smart and hyper entertainer.
No problem    here,  what you can't conceive or believe just can be represented as a negative,  you are NOT always such.   I imagine it is just your mood at this time that prevails you from seeing any thoughts that are building and not negative.   I know your are trying to help here, yet your comments are seeming to dissuade the idea of quartz being of benefit or even some source of useful additions.   We are what many call brain storming Emadtoxic and will be happy to have positive and insightful comments.   How are you helping?   Yes.  I too am an IEEE and can name many processes,  yet that was not the common ground I wished to convey here.  What we need are people who can ADD to a positive and useful topic instead of being burdensome and derogatory in a way that leads people away from  building upon an idea.  If you can assist and seek solutions and answers then by all means please do.  Otherwise bugger off.   We all can click on your name and read your posts both positive and negative.  Others have tried to offer ideas and imagination here before with your comments,  some of these are positive and a fair amount are negative and have a subtle hint of finality.   If you can not increase this topic then why diminish it?   We are left to ponder your purpose. Please take some time an invest in our future instead of being kurt and less than helpful.  Spend the same amount of time doing research and adding to this topic, else why are you here?  Have a lifesaver and enjoy.


Hope

So WTF  I see you trying and with your energy trying to build with great efforts.   Thank you for your belief in things not seen yet accepted as possible.  We have no clear picture of what part of real science is left out of our schoolings.  It is an honorable effort on your part to experiment with things not seen but believed in.   We following this topic seeing you as an person putting it all on the line to achieve something unknown at this time.  Hope we can ALL as well get behind you and make this happen.

Uniqorn

Quote from: WTF on January 19, 2014, 04:45:58 AM
@Hope

Thank you.

I also think why the wire net would need to be in contact with the rod when quartz is conductive to some extent. You put electricity through quartz and its shape changes. Bashar probably meant penetrating as a metaphor. Also what you need to remember is back from 1995 when apparently this video came from, Bashar spoke more alien like, when he called people from the audience he used to point and say male...........female, that's how he called people.


@Unigorn

Regarding the wire net, you said earlier that you think the wires should cross at every point to be electrical contact, I know the reason you said this is because only 4 wires need to touch the rod, but forgetting about the rod for one moment as at this point it doesn't make a difference if its touching the rod or crystal as its still 4 wires only touching something. When I read this part -

"Then at the outer boundary of the net, allow each wire to remain as a single wire, do not curve them back upon themselves, allow their ends to be exposed in the centre of what you would call the sandwich."

When he says allow each wire to remain a single wire that to me tells me that they must not come into contact with each other. Think of it this way if I had 2 wires and then soldered them together, wouldn't they become one wire. As at the moment they have their own path to follow.

I know sometimes people can see things other people can't see, and maybe you're seeing things I can't, but if you can please convince me they really should be in contact with each other, and why Basher has said they should be separated.

@Hope (and others)
The penetration Bashar speaks of is not a metaphor. To penetrate means to pass through a material, with an implication of some difficulty. And he states clearly that the WIRE must penetrate, not the current. Quartz is an excellent insulator, so expecting any voltage to get through is unlikely. Besides that, Bashar's track record is to always be explicit when he speaks of metaphors.

"then the gold woven spiral in the middle that touches and penetrates the crystal, to touch in this way at a few points, at least four, the golden rod penetrating through the crystal sphere"

Note the "and" between "touches and penetrates". This fits with some wires touching the crystal "and" some wires penetrating the crystal. Note also that the "golden rod" also penetrates the crystal. That is not metaphorical either. Beings that claim to be verging into the non-physical realm are unlikely to be using rotary drill bits to machine their gadgets. So the choice of the word "penetrate" is neutral, in that it leaves it up to the experimenter on how they choose to make the penetration.

@WTF
Your crystal sphere should be one inch in diameter, that is 25.4mm, probably plus or minus 2mm (my guess) I'm not sure where you got 2inches from (50.8mm).

"When he says allow each wire to remain a single wire that to me tells me that they must not come into contact with each other."
To be honest, I haven't a clue how you could interpret it this way. He would have explicitly made clear if they were not to come in contact with each other, which would require insulation.

The wire mesh is quoted as 'tightly interwoven' and 'woven', which are effectively the same. There is no mention anywhere of the wires being insulated, and in other talks, Bashar has always been explicit about insulation. Interwoven means it must cross over each other. Therefore a "Tightly interwoven", non insulated mesh of wires will constitute a wholly conductive mesh, albeit constrained in a geometrical Fibonacci spiral. "Tightly" means the wires will firmly contact each other to make a sure electrical contact.

As for the outer boundary wire ends, he says exposed single wires, which means he doesn't want a single long wire looped back on it self. So therefore, you have the outer wires in the correct arrangement.

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I'm simply going to the source. Most of the questions you are asking can be answered simply by reading the whole transcript, over and over until you understand Bashar's intentions to the last detail. You have the patience and wherewithal to make the device, so take the time to read the Bashar's plan. This will save you time and money.
Go back and have a look at my renderings - they are based exactly on what Bashar's transcript says, except the rim, which is my detail.



@Hope - thanks for sharing your story of the quartz in the truck bed - fascinating. Also, thanks for your encouragement for WTF.

WTF

You must remember my device is double the size to the one Bashar was talking about, so this would require a 50mm crystal.

You are right about the woven part saying 1 wire would be over and the other wire that crosses it would be under it, which happens in mine with the template in between, for the wires to cross and touch, both wires would have to be on top or underneath, which wouldn't really be classed as interwoven, if all wires were meant to come in contact with each other it would be more logical to have them contact each other in the centre.

gauschor

Quote from: Uniqorn on January 21, 2014, 07:15:07 AM
"then the gold woven spiral in the middle that touches and penetrates the crystal, to touch in this way at a few points, at least four, the golden rod penetrating through the crystal sphere"

Note the "and" between "touches and penetrates". This fits with some wires touching the crystal "and" some wires penetrating the crystal. Note also that the "golden rod" also penetrates the crystal.

Thanks for this thorough explanation. Now I agree that in this context the word "penetrate" shall be understood as something that "goes through physically". Also makes sense in all cases when Bashar uses this wording.