Super simple way to see proof Pseudo Solid principle works using ring magnets

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@Norman6538

Yep

I don't personally think Butch has accurately described the force needed to move the magnets in
some of his videos when he says they can be moved with a feather.  At the same time the videos
clearly show that it doesn't take a lot of force to do what he is describing, so it doesn't really bother
me very much.

It is important to understand that how much DISTANCE each FORCE is applied over is what defines the work.
(displacement multiplied by force)

In the design at hand, there are 3 force times displacement actions to measure.

1. moving the magnet (pseudo solid fashion) WORK IN
2. sliding the bent bar set and magnet (perhaps on wheels) WORK IN
3. attraction of the bar set / magnet to the base  (work out)

Butch is only measuring these motions by feel and so on.  It appears to me that the results of his measurements
provide good enough evidence to support making quantitative / precise measurements.

I would like to quantitatively measure them at some time in the future, if some one else doesn't
beat me to it.  I don't think Butch has to do this, or that you have to either.

But if you do,  I sure would appreciate if I could see the methods used and results of it.

As to what method or device can be used to cause the 2 input motions and to utilize the output motion ?

I agree with Butch, that these are just a matter of standard engineering application, no big deal,
unless of course one sees some advantage to a particular or perhaps novel method.

                                            cheers                     

[gammarayburst]

In the Pseudo Solid design, if the magnet poles maintain an equal spacing from the ferro-magnetic material (.005"), the magnet will be in a floating state.
The equal but opposite forces will cancel each out and it will be so easy to move that blowing on it will move it. The only resistance to movement will be eddy current drag but the eddy currents can be reduced to near zero with proper material selection and design of the material configuration. Keeping a .005" air gap will take precision machining and proper design of the machine. The most amazing thing about Pseudo Solid design to me is that you can design a generator using it but when you put a voltage current through the generator's coils using an external power source, the generator will not motor.
This is a very good indication I feel because if it did motor then it would probably mean that as a generator it would have "drag".
Thanks,
Butch LaFonte

[gammarayburst]

In my latest design the work bars are spaced .005" above the lower assembly. If eddy currents are reduced to near zero as present art allows then with proper machine design the bars can move with an amount of work so low that it does not need at this point to even be put in the equation. If two machines are configured in such a way that the pull on the work bars is like the magnets, equal but opposite, then the bars will be "floating" also.
The amount of work needed as input would be less than 1% compared to output. Also remember most all work put into the bars shows up as kinetic energy and can be recovered to a large degree.
Thanks,
Butch LaFonte

[gammarayburst]

I need a 3D animation so bad on my latest design. Please help!
Butch

[gammarayburst]

I am also aware of possible hysteresis loss in the Pseudo Solid system and I am aware it would have to be designed for low loss as in a transformer. [/color][/font][/size]