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Overunity Machines Forum



M Drive reactionless drive invented by me

Started by M Drive Inventor, December 08, 2013, 01:45:09 PM

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M Drive Inventor

Quote from: tim123 on December 11, 2013, 02:52:31 PMYep, and they push back on the frame when they do that. That's the opposing force. It just happens slower. Hence stick-slip.
Nooo, for stick-slip to work you need a faster backwards motion, not slower.

The gyros need to move forward slowly in order to make the wheels stay stationary during the entire process, just like your foot stay stationary against the ground when the other moves forward. When the gyros has managed to move to its most forward position, then you need a rapid backwards motion in order to make the wheels unstick. That's exactly how 'scooting yourself forward on an office chair' works.

Not to mention the bearings never stay still for more than a moment. Not to mention the backwards and forwards motion of the gyros are roughly the same speed all the time.

Not to mention, the machine moves consistently forward. Time after time. If it really was stick-slip it'd be move in a random direction, yet I have hours of footage of the machine consistently moving in only one direction.

lumen

If the gyros pull themselves ahead when rotated and you gain motion by pulling them back, isn't that a unnecessary step?

If something moves ahead and you gain position by jerking it back, isn't the real work done by the something pulling itself ahead?

Why not just put the angled gyros on a wheel and rotate it. As it pulls ahead then everything pulls ahead.

M Drive Inventor

Quote from: lumen on December 11, 2013, 06:58:13 PM
If the gyros pull themselves ahead when rotated and you gain motion by pulling them back, isn't that a unnecessary step?

If something moves ahead and you gain position by jerking it back, isn't the real work done by the something pulling itself ahead?

Why not just put the angled gyros on a wheel and rotate it. As it pulls ahead then everything pulls ahead.
I'm... not following you. When the gyros move forward in the video (you do this by rotating the scaffold) you're not moving the center of gravity. The gyros only push back on the wagon, forcing the wheels and wagon back slightly.

According to physics, when the gyros are forced back, the wheels should move forward exactly the same length as they moved back. This is what every single physicist in the world will tell you. Gyroscopes shouldn't be able to move the center of gravity like in the video, but, here we are. When the gyros are forced back, something weird happens, and the wheels move forward a lot more than they moved back.

It's as if the gyros latch on to space itself, like they're pulling an invisible rope. Not saying that's what actually happens, it's just an analogy. But the point is, the gyros shouldn't affect the wagon like that.

lumen

What is the force that pulls the arms ahead? If the gyros are pushing back on the wagon then you need to try the same experiment without the gyros running.
I think the gyros pull themselves ahead in forced precession from rotating the arms, then pulling them back tries to rotate the gyros again from the angle change of the arms going back, which is resisted and pulls the wagon.

M Drive Inventor

Quote from: lumen on December 11, 2013, 09:04:26 PM
I think the gyros pull themselves ahead in forced precession from rotating the arms, then pulling them back tries to rotate the gyros again from the angle change of the arms going back, which is resisted and pulls the wagon.

That's absolutely right. It is resisted, which is a normal already explained part of gyroscope behavior, but the resistance shouldn't pull the wagon. It's a completely unknown, unexplored phenomenon. And to claim that is apparently very controversial, as it proves Newton's third law of motion isn't infallible, which no one has been able to do yet.
QuoteWhat is the force that pulls the arms ahead? If the gyros are pushing back on the wagon then you need to try the same experiment without the gyros running.
It's the gyroscopes that twist and turn when you precess them that's causing the arms to go forward. The gyroscopes want to align with the rotation to reach the point of minimal potential energy, like in this video (40 seconds in): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1AHzQep1I8

I have of course tried spinning the scaffold around without the gyros running, but nothing happens. The gyros are pulled out by centrifugal forces, but the arms are already in that position, so the gyros/arms don't move back and forth when you rotate the scaffold. The wagon just stays in one place.

I have figured out how to make them move back and forth without the gyros spinning (running, as you said). So, they're coming. That experiment should be convincing evidence that the gyros are in fact responsible for the propulsion, not some hard to spot friction. I'm excited. :)