Reactive power - Reactive Generator research from GotoLuc - discussion thread

[poynt99]

No movement of the probe is necessary. It is a simple inversion done in the scope itself. Luc demonstrated it in the first video.

You can refer to this post for more info.
http://www.overunity.com/14132/charging-battery-from-mains-is-series-with-a-capacitor/msg380307/#msg380307

[Abt]

Hi all,
I'm new to this forum but have read for a while in this thread. It is very interesting, a big thank you to Luc for sharing the information.
I did some tests myself now and can see this is a good way to free energy. I was using a MOT, secondary was shortet out. Just drove
a simple induction motor with the primary coil and condensers in series. My motor needed a quite low capacity to see the effects
(only around 4 µF). Input dropped from 380 Watts down to 90W, funnywise the input lowers again when I load the motor shaft. When I brake it too much the motor looses it's magnetic coupling and input goes down to 7W. Need a better Oszi to look for the phase shift, can't do it with the one i have.
regards
Abt

[Farmhand]

Farmhand


Give me please the proof that mechanical energy in generators is  converted into electrical energy . I  think power company does not produce any electricity by conversion - they simply work out the situation when this energy come to the system from outside but they do that in symmetrical way with a COP never exceeding 1. It's like the misconception that water pump is converting you muscles energy into water. No miracles here, you still need a supply of water like well or lake, and if you plug your pump in correct way you can have much higher output then input.
I'm not the only one who suspect what is the real action here....mark my words...

Without the generator there is no power, the generator generates "power" not energy.

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[Farmhand]

Yes this patent describes ways to increase the "Active power" not the output energy.

https://www.google.com/patents/WO2011101512A1?cl=en&dq=WO2011101512&hl=hu&sa=X&ei=-HbAUr3vGITgygPM5IH4CA&ved=0CDoQ6AEwAA

Some parts from the patent.

=, Of dande sais kW = EVA x. fp fp KVA The conclusion is the same in both cases: the active power is zero when the inductive load is ideal. I said in the previous paragraphs shows that the cosine of an angle is not correct to use it as power factor, for the following reasons: The value 0, which corresponds to a phase angle of 90 degrees, is an unacceptable contradiction and a 1 limiting the value of reactive power, the total power value, without regard to the quality factor of the inductor or coil. By definition, the ideal inductor has an ohmic resistor and an inductive reactance zero infinite due to the value, the current inside a parallel resonant circuit, Q times reaches a value greater than the current in the external circuit, on which fact underlying the many advantages and applications of the parallel resonant circuit. CONCLUSION: For the foregoing reasons, the cosine of an angle should not be used as power factor, because the power is not vector and because the maximum and minimum values ​​of the cosine does not correspond with the limits of variation of the reactive power, therefore the formula:

Km = V x. I ■ CQS does not represent the physical function of the electrical power with any waveform, and therefore should not be used.

Meters use this formula I guess

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2.8 For the reasons stated in the preceding paragraphs, and not to limit the benefits of the advances that the invention proposes, has changed the classic power factor by the quality factor Q of the inductive load, which faithfully represents the physical phenomenon without limiting its extreme values ​​and the possibilities of the inductive load as generating reactive power, which when transformed into active power generator becomes active or useful energy generated by the inductive load.

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2.9 In practice, there are huge amounts of reactive power, inductive and capacitive circulating electrical installations and distribution networks, which limit the efficiency of electrical energy in his generation, distribution and use. Two. 10 The solutions to the deficiencies stated in the preceding paragraphs, are the basis of the method proposed by the invention.

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I don't see any claims of extra output energy. Just an increase in the active power. And it says that the regular way of measuring is no good or something along those lines.

Power is not energy.

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I can show an input to a transformer of just a few watts with an active power of tens of watts, maybe even hundreds, but it is not free energy. It's activity.

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Anyone know how to get to see the drawings for the patent ? I can't see any drawings, A picture tells a thousand words.

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In reality the input and output energy should probably be calculated in joules.

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[lancaIV]

http://de.slideshare.net/Electricpowermultiplier/scientific-foundations-of-the-ore


the WO patent mosaics: http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=WO&NR=2011101512A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=&date=20110825&DB=&&locale=en_EP


Sincerely
              OCWL