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Overunity Machines Forum



1lb lift-force anti-gravity from ordinary charged capacitor!

Started by leviterande, December 17, 2013, 12:39:17 PM

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leviterande

Good work tim! the more we are the more conclusive data we can collect.

Lets se...,  to  get a fast and simple good picture of  if the capacitor does really charge or if it is  just arcing inside you can do what I did:
-charge the capacitor  ,
-immediately remove the  cables from the supply/wimburst machine
-get the two terminals of the capacitor close to each other to discharge it,  and see  how  far they  arc. if the arc is very short compared to the HV source, the  capacitor voltage reached  is either small or barely being held. It all comes down to how good the dielectric is.

There is an important point here as well, and that  is how much energy your capacitor have,  if you know the dimensions you can easily calculate it.

I used this calculator a lot during my tests to get the energy out.
http://www.daycounter.com/Calculators/Plate-Capacitor-Calculator.phtml

the Teflon sheets looked  very porous with big holes so the  plates my arced right away perhaps... 

Any sheet of plastic  works, thin ones work good too but your wimburst looks like in the 100kv range?,  so thickness should be higher(I used a cutting board once :D)

I don't know your numbers of your cap and machine but roughly  if your machine is 50kv, and if the cap did  charge  , then  the energy of your cap was around 0.3Joules.   


tim123

Hi Lev,
  thanks :)

I think it's a pretty leaky capacitor... :) I may well re-do it... I can measure it's capacitance - I have a meter.

The teflon sheets are black - the correx is the white stuff. I have a) some more teflon baking sheets, and b) some 6/8mm plate glass I can try.

It's unlikely to be arcing - but I can't tell because turning the wimshurst makes too much noise anyway.

I wonder about having multiple layers? I've not seen any reports on that... If I can get any effect - I'll try it...

I'm working on getting the HV transformer working - it's still in the prototype stage - but it works well... :) I think the enclosure I bought is too small, but I may be able to cram it all in there. the HV parts need covering in resin...

I've attached a pic - FYI

Regards, Tim

xee2


Anti-gravity device comments:
Doyle R. Buehler reported in his paper "Exploratory Research on the Phenomenon of the Movement of High Voltage Capacitors" published in Journal of Space Mixing 2 in 2004, that charging a capacitor to 0.02 Joules changed its weight by 1 to 2 grams. A 500 pF capacitor charged to 20 KV will have 5 times as much energy (0.1 Joules) and so should have a weight change of 5 to 10 grams. This is a rather large weight change that is easily measureable by most scales. It should not be necessary to build a parallel plate capacitor since 500pF/30KV unpolarized capacitors are readily available from Information Unlimited (http://www.amazing1.com/) for less than $2.00. The real problem is making sure that the weight change measurement technique is valid.

xee2

Possible test setup?
NOTE - charged high voltage capacitors are dangerous.

leviterande

Hi, Xee, among the tets I made last summer, I indeed tried several ceramic circular cingle plate caps at 30kv 4200pf and three of them at once but no weight change.  but I am not sure if area plays a roll here.. in any case always try first a single layer paralell plate cap, multilayer will complicate things greatly and Buehler did use single layer only.
but ofcourse we should try all configurations.

BTW xee, I never put the capacitor in this position as you showed as this  resulted in zero lift in the 2004 paper but who knows what maye work

My first thought after my failed tests was immidiatley that Doyle lived on a special area of some special magnetic/electrostatic properties. i.e. the ground under his lab or in the lab or something..