An interesting phenomenon I found

[dieter]

I agree, whenever possible we should stick to the plan. Here I had to improvise. I didn't see any Transistors mentioned, but these are pretty standard  npn and pnp ones. I definitely connected them as seen in the 2nd diagram, based on their datasheets, I also had no specs on the Caps. The copper core seems just like a holder for a ring of steel rods that are coated noncontuctively, to reduce eddy currents and yet obtain high impendance. A 2" coil with no copper pipe might be too much iron to saturate, hence the pipe. My problem was, I had just a few meters of wire, and by guessimation I chose a rather smal diameter about 1/2 inch. Actually I still can remove some rods and put some sort of pipe into its center. That might be an optimation.


But the Problem is, I don't see the cirquit doing what is it supposed to do. Basicly it should output an alternating squarewave to the bifilar primary. The bifilars are connected in opposition, so the "stereo" signal creates AC on the secondary. As the signal stops on a primary, it will throw back the back electromagnetic pulse bemf, that has a voltage that mainly depends on the ability of the coil to quickly unload. This spike may be several times the voltage of the original signal. It will run in parallel with the next original signal on the other primary and increase the voltage on the secondary, while still maintainige the current of the original signal.


Bifilar rocks. Ordinary Transformers  don't do that afaik.


I also think about to add a ring of welding rods on the outside of the coil, this should double the impendance and inductivity, I guess.

[dieter]

Little update. In this thread 3 circuits are presented, I tested them all, they differ. First one didn't do anything, 2nd worked partially, also the third. lately I realized how lossy caps are, so I start thinking of substitutes. A Coil for instance has little losses, other than inductivity.
And 90 deg ahead is just like 270 deg behind, at least from my unskilled point of view.

[MileHigh]

Note this thread has gone nowhere, just like I said it would.  There is an important principle at play.  You simply can't take a transformer, a few passive components like resistors, capacitors, and coils, and a few active components like transistors and connect them together and make a free energy machine.  If that was hypothetically true you would be able to take your scope and show a signal or signals that were larger in energy than they would be for a "normal" circuit.  You would be able to show the "entry point" for the over unity.

The reality is that every small circuit that you see people playing with _is_ a normal circuit.  Take the example of UFOPolitics and when he changes the windings in an electric motor.  He and his followers may believe that they are doing something out of the ordinary, but in fact the rewired motor is still a normal motor, just like the unmodified motor was a normal motor.  What the motor and it's associated circuit do are normal.  A related issue is that people believe that they are looking at something that is not normal when it actually is normal.  They don't have enough experience or understanding to realize that what they are looking at is all normal.

I am not sure if Xenophed will be back, but please everyone, especially E2matrix, try to turn this into a learning experience.  Don't just assume that every time someone posts that they have allegedly got over unity or unusual behaviour from a small circuit that it's true.  Because in fact it will not be true.  This self-garden-path phenomenon happens over and over again.  The smart thing to do is assume that the experimenter is making a mistake.  Until you see at least three replications with credible measurements backing up the claim assume that the claim is not valid.

MileHigh

[Farmhand]

So I think we agree again MileHigh,  The device we considered here was a feedback oscillator which turned DC into AC, or an "inverter"  (at least the device considered in our discourse with the posters)

The coil arrangements are irrelevant if the effect is the same as any other similar arrangement.

A side note is that an oscillator that works the flux both ways out of phase (like a DC to AC inverter/converter) can deliver power better than a DC oscillator because the "input power on" time is doubled. For a system that gets some actual loading that is desirous as compared to a unidirectional excitation which can be more efficient when used at resonance for "radio effect's" or for just getting an inductive field to play with or even when not used at resonance for the spiky stuff.

Also a transformer excited by AC can be "idled" properly because the core flux can be maintained in ......."flux" ... 

Cheers

[e2matrix]

Note this thread has gone nowhere, just like I said it would.  There is an important principle at play.  You simply can't take a transformer, a few passive components like resistors, capacitors, and coils, and a few active components like transistors and connect them together and make a free energy machine.  If that was hypothetically true you would be able to take your scope and show a signal or signals that were larger in energy than they would be for a "normal" circuit.  You would be able to show the "entry point" for the over unity.

The reality is that every small circuit that you see people playing with _is_ a normal circuit.  Take the example of UFOPolitics and when he changes the windings in an electric motor.  He and his followers may believe that they are doing something out of the ordinary, but in fact the rewired motor is still a normal motor, just like the unmodified motor was a normal motor.  What the motor and it's associated circuit do are normal.  A related issue is that people believe that they are looking at something that is not normal when it actually is normal.  They don't have enough experience or understanding to realize that what they are looking at is all normal.

I am not sure if Xenophed will be back, but please everyone, especially E2matrix, try to turn this into a learning experience.  Don't just assume that every time someone posts that they have allegedly got over unity or unusual behaviour from a small circuit that it's true.  Because in fact it will not be true.  This self-garden-path phenomenon happens over and over again.  The smart thing to do is assume that the experimenter is making a mistake.  Until you see at least three replications with credible measurements backing up the claim assume that the claim is not valid.

MileHigh

Bolding is mine.   Therein lies the problem with assuming nothing will work or telling everyone not to bother with trying a circuit because you think it can't be COP >1 .   If everyone assumes that then there will be no replication attempts and some unnoticed variable will be missed that could have brought about free energy.    I haven't tried this yet due to being busy with other non-energy related things but I intend to do so soon.