Asymmetric Magnetomotive Tugger (shortly: AMT)

[TinselKoala]

Having trouble finding my videos? Here's a couple of illustrations of my "technical level", to help you decide whether I am worthy enough to criticize your apparatus:

HappyFunBall SNOT with Arduino display of velocity and Kinetic Energy of ball. (recent work from a few months ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4num28k4EnA

The Mylow HJMotor test bed, unpowered rundown calibration run. (from several years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mhs5nnRSB4

With a device containing a rotor (instead of a ball) and stator magnets, the process of determining the KE of the moving rotor, what its power dissipation per turn is, and how much energy must be added by any "gate" or "stator" arrangement for the rotor to turn perpetually, is essentially the same as what I've done here. By weighing the ball accurately and measuring its velocity as it goes through my sensing gate, I know the ball's KE at that instant. Your computation will be a little more complicated since you are dealing with an odd-shaped rotating rotor, but I'm sure your "technical level" is up to calculating the rotor's MoI from masses and geometries. Hence you will know, just as I know for my SNOT, your rotor's dissipation of mechanical energy as it turns. Hence you will know just how much energy you need to replace, "from somewhere", for your rotor to keep turning. Now, when you place your stators in place and perform an "unpowered rundown" you will be able to see, very easily, whether or not your stator assemblies hurt or help.

Or, if you have a system like I have in HappyFunBall SNOT, you can know exactly what energy you need to supply to your (stators removed) rotor to keep it rotating at a constant RPM. Then, with stators in place, supplying this same energy from outside, you will see (I predict) a slower stable RPM than you saw without the stators in place.

I predict that your stators will actually _slow down_ your rotor, by adding drag; they will never increase its speed or Kinetic Energy.

Now.... let's try to determine what _your_ "technical level" really is. It should take no more than an afternoon for you to perform and video this simple test, and you don't even need any fancy instrumentation like an Arduino and a photocell. You just need some way to apply the same starting input energy to the rotor each time (I'm sure your "technical level" is up to this challenge; if not, I or others here can help you with that) and an accurate method of timing the rundown times. (Even the videocamera's time stamp or frame rate will be sufficiently accurate here.)

[ageofmagnetizm]

Are you asking me about your favorite method of testing, or you stating


that something is "to bad" because that you do not know about achieved results of all different testing including you favorite one?
Is not it logical to ask before and conclude after knowing the results?
Also, I can not find your publications on "artificial geometries of


magnetomotive forces".
Now I shall learn your explanations of your "Toy called "HappyFunBall",


which you encourage to look at - as an argument of your statements.


Just be cool TinselKoala, and do not forget in-scripting links to referred


documents.

[TinselKoala]

Perhaps you can explain just what is wrong with my suggested test above, and why you won't perform it.

And perhaps you cannot.

I predict, again, that your rotor, without any stators, will take longer to run down from a known RPM, than it will take to run down from the same RPM with all your stators in place. This test will show, I predict, that your magnet arrangement is creating _drag_, not providing any advantage.

If you think otherwise, it would be a simple matter for you to PROVE ME WRONG by doing the test yourself, and publishing the video showing your work.

You can insult me all you like, but until you provide some actual data supporting your claims, nobody will believe you. I've given you a very simple experiment to perform that would go a _long way_ towards supporting your claims IF you could only show a longer rundown time with stators than without. But of course.... you cannot.

I don't care one whit about your simulation results or your explanations. Just show me the results from a _REAL EXPERIMENT_ where you compare relevant conditions to see their effects.  Don't worry about me.... I won't be holding my breath waiting for real data from you.

[ageofmagnetizm]

Why should I worry about someone who can not behave self nicely.
I've started this topic for discussion of:
Asymmetric Magnetomotive Tuggers - which are devices producing artificial and utilizable


geometries of magnetomotive forces explained on my web-site at:
https://sites.google.com/site/ageofmagnetizm/home/magnetomechanics/magnetorefractive/


geomagnetic/magnetomachanical/asymmetric-magnetomotive-tuggers
Occasionally I'd like to discuss similar structures of complex magnetic permeability.
The article explaining of constructions and functions of said AMTs include explanation of


magnetomotive trains and two (out of numerous) testing of proof-of-concept prototypes,


which I consider valuable and worth for discussion here. All other testings I consider of


lesser values and unworthy for any considerations.
If you or someone else will ask me why these testing are more important than others - than


I'll gladly explain why. If you or someone else want to discuss something else than I recomend to


do it elsewhere.

[TinselKoala]

Now everybody can read about it, make own experiments and discussing it here on the OVERUNITY.         
Taras Leskiv - the inventor of Asymmetric Magnetomotive Tuggers.

Sound familiar?

You refuse to perform the simple experiment I described. This means to me that you _know_ that there is nothing unusual, nothing in the least bit "overunity" about your device. You don't want to "discuss" or to "experiment", really, you just want people to go "ooh" and "ahh" for you.

When someone with "technical level" challenges you, you do what every other bogus claimant does: Instead of performing simple, proper experiments that illustrate the validity of your claims, you refuse to cooperate and you start in with the insults. Let me tell you something: How I behave has NOTHING AT ALL TO DO with the fact that YOU aren't providing support for your contentions, and the other fact that YOU are refusing to perform a simple experiment that would actually test your claims.

All other testings I consider of
lesser values and unworthy for any considerations.

In other words, any testings that _actually test_ your claims..... you consider unworthy. Here you place yourself into your own chosen category: Magnet motor builders who refuse to do anything that might potentially falsify their contentions.

Why are you so afraid to perform the simple test I outlined for you? Isn't your "technical level" up to it? Or.... is it because you KNOW already what will happen? Why don't you take this excellent opportunity to PROVE ME WRONG? I know why.... it is because you cannot.