Small amount of HHO Gas into automotive Catalytic converter yields OU heat??

[woopy]

just a short video to better explain my actual testing

http://youtu.be/MGspqCrkf1E

thank's to all of you for your interest

Laurent

[conradelektro]

The reaction of oxyhydrogen (Browm Gas, Knallgas) on platinum has been extensively researched since the 19th century.

It is an interesting "Heterogeneously Catalyzed Reaction", but not OU.

Please view the folowing links and scientific papers:

http://www.minotech.de/forschung/hho-technologie/heizen-mit-hho/ (in German, chapters 4 and 5 are on the topic)

http://books.google.at/books?id=TiG6eo4GVv8C&pg=PA3&lpg=PA3&dq=oxyhydrogen+platinum+reaction&source=bl&ots=qBVSwwT8H_&sig=Sd7h2UwzHqOR38VOH4vTsa7i7Qw&hl=de&sa=X&ei=KIrmUqWVM6GqyAOmpYGYBg&ved=0CFAQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=oxyhydrogen%20platinum%20reaction&f=false  (Heterogeneously Catalyzed Reactions, second half of the book page)

http://www.google.at/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=12&ved=0CDAQFjABOAo&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.researchgate.net%2Fpublication%2F222236058_Kinetics_of_the_hydrogen-oxygen_reaction_on_platinum%2Ffile%2F32bfe5118f770781c9.pdf&ei=tIvmUo_UD6Px4QSiy4HICg&usg=AFQjCNG5ON9V9e9YIdxDujAqDJhQ0XbN5A&bvm=bv.59930103,d.bGQ&cad=rja (the reaction is specified at the beginning of the article)

http://www.google.at/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CDwQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.platinummetalsreview.com%2Fpdf%2Fpmr-v10-i2-060-064.pdf&ei=9ozmUriUAeKM4AT-3oCwDg&usg=AFQjCNEiEl-ScmivigKiPxuqnfwVNXDs8Q&bvm=bv.59930103,d.bGE&cad=rja (1966 some things were not clear yet)

http://www.google.at/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=9&ved=0CHoQFjAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fcfg.web.psi.ch%2Fclean_air.pdf&ei=9ozmUriUAeKM4AT-3oCwDg&usg=AFQjCNGGsifdttDfIT-TnQ4_lAKPDqd_Rg&bvm=bv.59930103,d.bGE&cad=rja

It is not a debunk attempt, I just want to make people aware of the state of the art.

Greetings, Conrad

[tim123]

This discussion has inspired me to finish building my HHO generator. I bought the bits last autumn... It's all fixed inside a wheeled toolbox now. I tested it with plain tap water and it works really well. Cool. Just need to build the torch for it...

Thanks Conrad for the links... While it may not be officially OU, that would really depend on how easily the HHO was generated ... And it's certainly interesting - and perhaps with some modifications the catalyser could catalyse the LENR reaction and create deuterium / helium?

If the catalyser was made to be the -ve electrode - inside a partial-vacuum tube - then the H+ protons could maybe build up enough velocity to fuse when they strike the cathode... So the platinum cat would be the cathode - charged to a high potential - and the protons would be accelerated towards it - like an electron gun, but using protons instead...

Anyway, just an idea...

Woopy - your cat seems to be made of ceramic - and not aluminium? Can you tell me is it a conductor - or an insulator? I.e. could it be used as an electrode?

Thanks
Regards, Tim

PS: Here's a link to the HHO torch design I'm building...
http://www.instructables.com/id/Assemble-a-HHO-Mini-Torch-from-plumbing-parts/

PPS: Conrad - your links were so long they messed up the page width ...
It's possible to place the URL as a normal hyperlink in the editor (see leftmost - world-with-page icon) - perhaps you could modify?

[woopy]

Hi all

thanks to all for sharing your  links and proposals always very helpfull

today i stumbled upon this

http://youtu.be/eTuFuw6vAlo

Really fascinating to me

hope this helps

laurent

[conradelektro]

Hi all

thanks to all for sharing your  links and proposals always very helpfull

today i stumbled upon this

http://youtu.be/eTuFuw6vAlo

Really fascinating to me

hope this helps

laurent

@Laurent:

This is called limelight:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxyhydrogen#Lighting

"Lighting: Many forms of oxyhydrogen lamps have been described, such as the limelight, which used an oxyhydrogen flame to heat a piece of lime to white hot incandescence.^[10] Because of the explosiveness of the oxyhydrogen, limelights have been replaced by electric lighting."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limelight

Almost any ceramic will work.

Again, I am not debunking, just stating what is known and has been used, but it was used before electricity, therefore now widely unknown.

Brown gas was one of the first gases researched extensively in the 19th century and at the beginning of the 20th century. It was also involved in the discovery of catalsyts like platinum. What can be done with HHO (platinum, ceramic light) can also be done with most natural gases but at higher temperatures. In fact the car catalysator is based on this principle.

HHO is still used in the jewelry industrie to weld platinum and gold without adding something (gold or platinum is just molten and flows together).

You can find almost all effects of HHO alone and on catalysts (platinum, ceramic) in the (rather old) literature. It would be wise to research that before doing all the research again. Start with what is already known, that saves time and resources. It hurts to see people stumbling upon things which are all well known for a long time and misinterpreting them.

A flame only has a very small hot region (a lance in the middle where the HHO reacts completely, on the outside of the flame most of the HHO escapes unburned). HHO on the catalyst (without visible flame) reacts immediately on a big surface area therefor the light and the intense heat. One can say that less HHO escapes unburned if blown on a catalyst.

Also note that many people got hurt playing with HHO (brown gas, Knallgas, oxyhydrogen).

Greetings, Conrad