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How to use our free energy

Started by Cadman, January 29, 2014, 01:53:01 PM

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Farmhand

Personally if you have some free energy then I would likely use a combination of simple square wave inverters for lighting and regular resistive loads as well as drive a generator head for inductive loads from another electric motor of some kind. You just can't beat AC power produced by a rotating generator for simplicity and handling inductive loads, in my opinion. With the inverters you could take 120 volts DC and turn it into 120 volts AC, which would be more efficient that stepping up from lower voltage using more primary current.
If you're handy with electronics you can make a modified square wave and filter it for smaller inductive loads like fans and stuff. What do you think ?

What are you're idea's for a motor to generator setup ? Simple DC motor direct driving a gen head with a good flywheel ? 

Some folks don't get you. Obviously.  ;) Free energy is everywhere. Use it up and feel good about it.  :)

Cheers

TinselKoala

Quote from: LibreEnergia on January 30, 2014, 01:13:03 AM
My advice would be to disconnect the device and use whatever power supply it used  directly. Far simpler and the efficiency will be higher.

Following that invest the money saved in buying a proper integrating power analyser and use it to measure the output of your device and realise you have been fooling yourself.

Exactly.
I have noticed that the claimants of electronic FE devices _never_ use such integrating power analyzers in their work. The best we've seen is the consumer grade "kill-o-watt" type plug-in line power analyzers. Loads are generally the de rigueur bank of light bulbs with their labelled wattage considered as output when the bulbs glow, or the usual fans and drill motors.
Rossi's E-cat demonstrations have, some of them, used a decent low-end lab grade power monitor, but it was used outside its specification range and otherwise improperly, and due to the nature of his claims it could not be used on the output, only the input of his device.

Cadman

@ forest
Thank you for clarifying. I'll take the information as an area deserving further study.

@ Farmhand
Right now inverters appear to be the easiest route. I agree whole heartedly that a 120v to 120v inverter would be great, but a commercial 120VDC powered inverter is thousands of dollars that I don't have and I lack the knowledge to build one. See I'm in the same boat as a whole lot of other people :)

I couldn't agree more that a generator head is the way to go if you need to power refrigerators or freezers etc. Since I do have that need I have a 3500 watt gas engine generator for that. The problem with that is the gas. 5 gallons is good for about 8 hours continuous = $20. I could convert it to LP but that is out of the question now; the price of LP just went up over 300% in less than 30 days where I live. If I fill my 500 gal LP  tank today it will cost almost $4000 and that will last for less than three months just heating my home.

Sorry, back to topic.. As you know, driving a generator head with an electric motor is a loss. Ufopolitics gave it a valiant effort though didn't he? However, if there are watts to spare it would be worth the loss just to get away from the crippling cost of fuel. Perhaps the best motor would be a high efficiency 230v 3 phase induction motor around 10HP with FLA rating right at 20 amps? But, there's another problem to solve there.

Since it looks like the method of generating free electricity may be close to being revealed (IMHO), a do-it-yourself method of transforming it into a usable mains supply that we can use now is a priority.

@ LibreEnergia and TinselKoala
It was tempting to ignore your comments, but...
I found it somewhat revealing and quite presumptuous of you to state and agree that it would be better " to disconnect the device and use whatever power supply it used directly. Far simpler and the efficiency will be higher. "
Neither one of you have a clue what type of power supply I have, yet you come to this thread where I am seeking a solution to a technical problem and present negative statements regarding free energy. If you two are so sure that free energy is a waste of time, a pipe dream, or can't exist without "proper measurements" then what are you doing here on a forum about over unity power? And that's all I have to say about that.

Best regards to all of you.

LibreEnergia

Quote from: Cadman on January 31, 2014, 07:15:29 PM

@ LibreEnergia and TinselKoala
It was tempting to ignore your comments, but...
I found it somewhat revealing and quite presumptuous of you to state and agree that it would be better " to disconnect the device and use whatever power supply it used directly. Far simpler and the efficiency will be higher. "
Neither one of you have a clue what type of power supply I have, yet you come to this thread where I am seeking a solution to a technical problem and present negative statements regarding free energy. If you two are so sure that free energy is a waste of time, a pipe dream, or can't exist without "proper measurements" then what are you doing here on a forum about over unity power? And that's all I have to say about that.

Best regards to all of you.

So it may have been somewhat flippantly described but the intent is clear. If you believe you have an over unity device you owe it to yourself to first measure the output accurately to confirm the fact. It is pointless to seek a technical solution to a problem that may not exist.

I say this in an over-unity forum as numerous people before you have assumed they had an OU device but were fooled by the nature of the output power and the measurement technology they used.


Cadman

Ok I may have been a little too touchy. I started with, GIVEN a bank of caps...

But I ask you this, if I can charge that bank of caps with no more starting energy than the energy it takes to flick my wrist one time, why would I need to measure the energy in those caps to know if they had more energy than was input?

Some things are just plain self evident.