Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

[MarkE]

OK, so let me get this straight.  If I see a woman, whom I do not know, getting robbed on the street, I should just let that happen?  After all, I don't know her, she is not my Mom or a family member....right?  Is this the attitude you are suggesting that I take?  I really hope not.

As you mentioned, I am usually impartial on things but, I was NOT impartial during the Mylow saga.  Sometimes, a man just has to take a stand.  Now, Mylow was not selling anything to anyone but, many folks were spending a lot of money trying to replicate his "working" device.  This was still wrong.  I live in a world of right and wrong.

One last thing.  I am not against the research for free, or efficient energy sources.  Not at all.  If someone had an idea for something that looked promising, and wanted to do a kickstarter type program to raise money to "look into it", that would be fine.  But, if they claim they have a working device, and a single zed is overunity by itself, and that is not true, then that is fraud.  Do you understand what I am saying here?

Now Wayne has said, he does not claim overunity but, he did.  I wonder what those investors were told?  Do you know?

That is all I have to say.

Bill

Wayne Travis claims over unity.  Check out the mission statement on his web site.

[mrwayne]

never mind

[mrwayne]

Wayne Travis claims over unity.  Check out the mission statement on his web site.

Mark - you missed it again,

Net Energy - do you know the difference?

I did not know the difference two years ago.

If you do - stop spreading lies about me.

[Magluvin]

OK, so let me get this straight.  If I see a woman, whom I do not know, getting robbed on the street, I should just let that happen?  After all, I don't know her, she is not my Mom or a family member....right?  Is this the attitude you are suggesting that I take?  I really hope not.

As you mentioned, I am usually impartial on things but, I was NOT impartial during the Mylow saga.  Sometimes, a man just has to take a stand.  Now, Mylow was not selling anything to anyone but, many folks were spending a lot of money trying to replicate his "working" device.  This was still wrong.  I live in a world of right and wrong.

One last thing.  I am not against the research for free, or efficient energy sources.  Not at all.  If someone had an idea for something that looked promising, and wanted to do a kickstarter type program to raise money to "look into it", that would be fine.  But, if they claim they have a working device, and a single zed is overunity by itself, and that is not true, then that is fraud.  Do you understand what I am saying here?

Now Wayne has said, he does not claim overunity but, he did.  I wonder what those investors were told?  Do you know?

That is all I have to say.

Bill

"OK, so let me get this straight.  If I see a woman, whom I do not know, getting robbed on the street, I should just let that happen?  After all, I don't know her, she is not my Mom or a family member....right?  Is this the attitude you are suggesting that I take?  I really hope not."

Well, if I see Mark and you bitching and griping at Wayne on a street corner yelling "your a liar!", and I wanted to see what all the fuss was about, could you show me proof that Wayne is a liar? Well, show me some of YOUR proofs. Show me your replication of his complex device that is built as prescribed doesnt work and I would question him also possibly, if I 'felt the need'.  He doesnt need to show me any proof as I dont believe you paid him anything, have you? He gave some info, and if YOU choose to build upon that, then what does he owe you??? Show me a definitive replication that does not work!  Do you have that replication? Or are you just following others?

We can play that many different ways. You dont know his investors. You dont know exactly what they bargained for. If I remember correctly, Wayne clearly said from the start that he was only disclosing some things, not all. And he has that right. He owes YOU NOTHING!! Just like anyone else here. And you are pissed. Well thats your problem.

"As you mentioned, I am usually impartial on things but, I was NOT impartial during the Mylow saga.  Sometimes, a man just has to take a stand.  Now, Mylow was not selling anything to anyone but, many folks were spending a lot of money trying to replicate his "working" device.  This was still wrong.  I live in a world of right and wrong."

Mylow is a completely different monster. Mylow was a true con man, even if he didnt ask for money. Mylow gets busted again and again and keeps on going with some new trick to show the same goal. And it was all tricks. The master of the shell game.  No comparison with Wayne.


"One last thing.  I am not against the research for free, or efficient energy sources.  Not at all.  If someone had an idea for something that looked promising, and wanted to do a kickstarter type program to raise money to "look into it", that would be fine.  But, if they claim they have a working device, and a single zed is overunity by itself, and that is not true, then that is fraud.  Do you understand what I am saying here?"

Something that 'looked' like something promising, and you may have wanted to risk peoples kickstarter money to see if it works???        Are you the one on the corner with the old woman???

Well where is your single zed that does not work? Id love to see it.

"Do you understand what I am saying here?"   You wont like my answer.



And finally....

"Now Wayne has said, he does not claim overunity but, he did.  I wonder what those investors were told?  Do you know?"

Do you?  Wayne has said from the beginning that he was only giving some of what he has. He has no obligation to 'give' any more than that. But your not satisfied with that? Then walk away, just like any other of the thousands of threads here. And he has charged not a single soul here 1 single penny, and never asked for any investments here. Yet the demands and slander continues every day this thread is alive. And with all the negativity, the real work is hindered by people that dont have the guts to build it and 'prove' their case. Tk is the only one I would imagine doing so, and I think he would do a great job at it.  But he hasnt. Yet.

Mags

[MileHigh]

Well I read Wayne's long posting before he deleted it.  It had the full cadence of the 'preacher.'  It's a regular occurrence.  His long 'explanation' posting was done in the preacher cadence.  The explanation posting was filled with 'technical' terms that only exist in Wayne's brain.  Seriously, when you use terms like 'exhaust' and all that mumbo-jumbo, it's all a farce.  I am sure that nobody knows what he is talking about.  Then you have him endorsing experimenters that barely have a clue.  There has never been a demonstration of a working system, surprise surprise.  Wayne refuses to even acknowledge direct straight-forward questions.  This has been going on for five years and nothing to show for it.  You can design and build a 2000 megawatt hydroelectric dam in five years.

Everything about Wayne adds up - on the dark side.

Don't be fooled.