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Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

Started by mondrasek, February 13, 2014, 09:17:30 AM

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mrwayne

Great Work Mark E and Monderask.

You have worked thru the Math to properly analyzed the "Ideal charge"

That deserves a victory Lap for the Math so Far - well done.

Again - Great work thru the first step.

Note to Mark, "Ideal charge" is great for Monderask's question.


It is incorrect to use that state of a ZED or Marks stated operation as any conclusion, you have one wheel on the Gravity Wagon so far..Smile

p.s. Don't feel bad - almost every engineer jumped to your conclusion - you will get it soon.

Wayne



mrwayne

To All,

The drawing all lend confusion to our process.

Non show a static load - we used Hydraulic resistance as the load - above the risers.

This resulted in a state where the charge to lift a load is balanced - once buoyancy to load neutral  is reached - any additional input resulted in overcoming the resistance and resulted in stroke and output.

Also important to understand - at the end of the desired stroke - a mechanical stop is used to keep the precharge and stroke input from being released.

In effect - the load was removed during stroke, and then the precharge and stroke input recaptured.

As Webby described - we invented several methods to improve the value of that re use of the precharge and stroke input.

- The Video Mark Dansie took - we recaptured 57% of the input. (was our first  three layer ZED system)

This resulted in a simple input reduction to the over all process.

The comparisons to a Hydraulic cyclnder - which Larry has shown - is for one simple realization.

When we configure the ZED to upstroke loaded - with the same or better value than a simple hydraulic cylnder - and then re-use any portion of that input - the result is a input reduction.

Just as Fletcher described.

Our design requires three layers to be equal to or better than a Hydraulic cylinder.

The seal less jack comparison - with resuse is simple and clear - it continues to surprise me - that the men who slander me - won't see that.

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Larry and Mark have agreed that a single layer and pod system is in the 60%'s area, I agree.

Watch what happens when you add two and then three - you can stop at three if you like - but you do not have to. smile

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It took three minutes to realize the value of the ability to recycle input in a ZED system......... no magic, no fuss, no agenda.

Just good hard work.

Wayne


TinselKoala

Come on Travis, answer minnie's question.

It has been asked of you very politely and you have dodged it multiple times. Eventually everyone will think that your non-answer is a NEGATIVE answer. Some of us already know this.

Answer another question: Where is the 50 kW unit you promised was only three months away, in November of 2010? You claim to be fully funded, so it should be no problem for you NOW.

Unless of course you CANNOT, being constrained by reality.

What do the Trinity Baptist Church fathers think about your promise, now? Or is that part of the "doors closing, expectations not met"?

TinselKoala

QuoteOur design requires three layers to be equal to or better than a Hydraulic cylinder.

QuoteBut let me say - a single Zed system can demonstrate a gain over the operating cost

Let's see you reconcile those two quotations from you, Travis.

mondrasek

Quote from: TinselKoala on March 02, 2014, 11:18:54 AM
Let's see you reconcile those two quotations from you, Travis.

TK,  MarkE and I are currently working through the analysis of a SINGLE ZED that is composed of THREE LAYERS.