Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

[mrwayne]

He is "fully funded". Money from new investors has been used to buy out or service interest obligations of older original investors. Check the WIKI for what that system is called.

Bu you might well ask yourself what he IS doing here, since we are an insignificant internet forum and every second he spends here is a second that he is not spending saving the World from the Tyranny of Big Oil. Personally I think he is trying to build credibility and interest, just like in the old locked thread, and when he sees that he cannot meet the challenges from people here.... he will again ask Stefan to lock the thread, or perhaps he'll just go away. Mad. After all, when you have a self-running machine, even a "5 hp net" one.... people will find out and will come and take a look. People like DIA, CIA, Mossad, NKVD, you name it. Free energy from a device that can run itself has immediate and game-changing military applications, as I have pointed out before. The mere fact that Travis is posting his nonsense here and can't wait to get back on after his dinner, is very strong evidence that nobody, really, is interested in him except some people he's charmed the pants off...er, I mean charmed the wallets out of. They are paying for his "expectations" and his projected milestone dates, with the hope that Wayne will _someday_ be able to translate his fantasy into reality. This milestone day will never come. It will be next month, next week or even tomorrow... but tomorrow something else will prevent the current prototype from continuing to "run" once the Flow Assist stops being put in from outside.

John,

Once again - that is a bull face lie -

First I will repeat - my family who supported - will not release their shares for ten times the amount.

None are disgruntled.

Second - Our new benefactor - is not allowed to buy their shares.

Third - they first rights ----

and fourh - I gave that power point and explained that the Grant committee sent me to a third Party - hence a new benefactor....

You omit and lie constantly - and have never backed up your objections.

So stop being a liar. Stop doctoring photo - to make more lies, just do the math right.

p.s. I can back up my claims. PERIOD.

Wayne

[MarkE]

Mark, thanks for pointing out the contradictions in Wayne's claims.  It's almost sad that Wayne can get away with that verbage where he claims that he is "explaining" how his system allegedly works and almost nobody complains.  He doesn't get away with it completely though, some people can recognize it for the nonsense that it is.

I am certainly not you, that's for sure, I am my own person.  Nor am I being paid by anybody, that's ridiculous.

I make a thought experiment.  I think of some well-meaning couple that may have sunk their life's savings into Wayne's fake proposition.  Chances are they will never see that money again.  It may take away the funds that they wanted to use to finance their son's or daughter's college education and now that dream is lost.  It's lost because they fell hook, line, and sinker for Wayne's nonsense.  Their children get hurt because of this, and the confidence artist does not care.  I care.

Even though it's all purely a hypothetical, nothing more than a thought experiment, these things really do happen in real life.  It makes me mad.

Standing up to Wayne and others of his ilk in this thread or elsewhere can make a difference.  Let's assume that there are anonymous lurkers that read threads like this.  Reading here gives them valuable information that they might otherwise not get.  It's takes them out of their investment fantasy delusions and prevents them from handing their life savings over to some con artist.  That's worth a "battle" every now and then, and note that both parties contribute equally to the "battle."

MileHigh

It takes all kinds.  There are people who toll endlessly some of whom come up with useful inventions and many who do not.  Then there are people who realize that as long as one doesn't care about the consequences to others, there is money in selling dreams for cash.  It's pretty easy to separate the people who genuinely believe in what they are trying to do from the sharpies.  Those who believe in what they are doing are usually anxious to prove they are right, even if they are badly mistaken. 

Sharpies emphasize suggestion over substance.  They constantly reinforce the idea that there is magic behind a curtain.  They attempt to assert authority.  They attempt to make people want to join their secret society.  There is always some secret that only the specially anointed supposedly share.  Part of culling the herd is seeing who will bite on the idea of the cult secret.  If they do, a common technique is to tell them some useless thing and insist that they keep that 'great secret' to themselves.  Suggesting to someone that they hold a secret is a great way to play on people's ego and build loyalty.  Those who cannot be so co-opted aren't good prospects.  This is why we see special private groups and societies formed, be it the Scientologists, LDS, Steorn, or investment undertaker Wayne.

A really skillful sharpie will go to great pains to avoid promising anything direct or tangible.  The best sell senseless imagery like:  getting "clear", or "it".  A few tiers down we have those who make the mistake of promising something specific that they know they can't deliver.  Those are the Dennis Lee's and John Rohner's.  They have some smooth talking skills down well enough, but they just never quite learned the craft well enough to separate people from their cash without promising something identifiable.  These guys typically emulate John Worrell Keely's investor fan dance. They get investors all hot and bothered thinking that they are going to score big, and then it's time to stretch things out.  About the time investors pull out the pitch forks and torches, low and behold some new discovery even better than the last one surfaces and the delay game begins anew.  These second rate sharpies are the ones who get sued and prosecuted from time to time.  The first rate sharpies are rarely ever touched.  They do things like buy naming rights on stadiums.

[MarkE]

John,

Once again - that is a bull face lie -

First I will repeat - my family who supported - will not release their shares for ten times the amount.

Non or disgruntled.

Second - Our new benefactor - is not allowed to buy their shares.

So stop being a liar.

p.s. I can back up my claims. PERIOD.

Wayne

Nope, you have never been able to, and you never will be able to substantiate your patently false claims:
"First Mechanical Energy Amplifying System"
"the Zydro Energy Device, is... which is a breakthrough in the understandings of physics"
"Our technology produces clean energy Mechanically"
"Our technology ... by altering the once believed conservative field of gravity"
"allowing us to supply endless and abundant clean Energy"

Each and every one of the above claims by you is completely false.

[mrwayne]

Nope, you have never been able to, and you never will be able to substantiate your patently false claims:
"First Mechanical Energy Amplifying System"
"the Zydro Energy Device, is... which is a breakthrough in the understandings of physics"
"Our technology produces clean energy Mechanically"
"Our technology ... by altering the once believed conservative field of gravity"
"allowing us to supply endless and abundant clean Energy"

Each and every one of the above claims by you is completely false.

You missed it that's all.

[MarkE]

You missed it that's all.

Nope:  Mechanical amplifiers that use external energy sources are old hat.  Passive energy amplifiers don't exist.  See the First Law of Energy.
There is no new physics that you or anyone in your organization has discovered.  You have gone to pains to misrepresent physics that has been around for over 2000 years.
Your "technology" is an energy sink.  It produces no energy on its own.
You have no means to alter the conservative nature of gravity.  We can set-up a real test for your faithful employees.  Climb on top of a church steeple and utilize your gravity altering technology to make a swan dive to the earth a safe and enjoyable experience.
You have no ability to supply any energy.  Your personal utility bills are testament to that.