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Overunity Machines Forum



Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

Started by mondrasek, February 13, 2014, 09:17:30 AM

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TinselKoala

Quote from: minnie on March 07, 2014, 10:56:52 AM


    mrwayne's  on to something," you push it down and it goes up".
    Quite amazing!
                       John.

More like "you push on him, and the 5hp machine goes away."

powercat

Quote from: mrwayne on March 07, 2014, 09:30:44 AM
Thanks Webby,

The spring was meant to be just another puppet rabbit trail like:

The Pink
Unicorn
Bollard
Hereon or what ever..
Brick
Rock
Gravity switch

and feel free to add the the misdirection list..

But as fate would have it - the analogy can be corrected - SMile

And Your spring correction is not too far from reality - Make one change - the ZED Spring has a impressive attribute missed...

It gets taller as it is compressed..................... how that for counter intuitive......

That's what I shared with Mark on his second visit - we push down to go up smile - makes the input a double use.

Now - give a an inventor worth his salt that can not use it to circumvent gravity ,,,,,,,,

Wayne


to elude the obvious - but if you want to cover


But Wayne it doesn't work in reality, you have never been able to show the device continuously running, and that is why you repeatedly lied about verification.
You're a twisted son of a bitch you keep dropping Mark's name in as some kind of justification, here is a quote of what he actually thinks.

Quote from: markdansie on August 27, 2012, 05:05:15 AM
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I still have not seen the two day demo yet , but I never put a time frame on this.
However as with all things as time carries on the confidence level always diminishes.

When logic and proportion Have fallen
Go ask Alice When she's ten feet tall

mondrasek

Quote from: powercat on March 07, 2014, 11:31:29 AM
Quote from: markdansie on August 27, 2012, 05:05:15 AM

PC, Mark Dansie posted much more recently, and in this thread.  Why don't you quote from there?  It should be his most recent thoughts on the ZED topic.

TinselKoala

QuoteNow - give a an inventor worth his salt that can not use it to circumvent gravity ,,,,,,,,

Wayne

Let's see.... is circumventing gravity the same thing as turning buoyancy on and off?

Oh... wait.... you didn't say outright that it was YOU who were circumventing gravity.... you just call everyone else who CAN'T do it, "not worth his salt"... in plain talk, incompetent.

However you are leaving out one very important part of your testimony, honest Wayne Travis. And that is.... that you can't do it either.

And another thing: the cars and airplanes you travel in, the bridges you drive over, even the garbage disposal in your kitchen.... all were invented by inventors and designed by engineers who, according to you, are "not worth their salt."




MarkE

Quote from: webby1 on March 07, 2014, 08:02:21 AM
sure,, I think the prediction of efficiency was off by a lot however.

Since KanShi seems to be the Gold Standard,, explain my 75 to 95 percent efficient lifts with a poorly built device.

And this is where I go back to the old thread and ask a simple question.

If I have a 75% efficient lift, how much do I need to recover from what is left after the lift?

MarkE, you are actually going over the worst usage of the system,, think about it,, this is the worst that it will do,,
A brick is easily over 99% efficient.  The less that you let the ZED move the better the efficiency gets.  Once the ZED does not move at all, it approximates the efficiency of a much smaller, cheaper, and more reliable brick.