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Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

Started by mondrasek, February 13, 2014, 09:17:30 AM

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MarkE

Quote from: mondrasek on March 11, 2014, 11:18:49 AM
I have explained and showed my methods for the Analysis from the point where it diverges from MarkE's at after State 2.  That begins here:  http://www.overunity.com/14299/mathematical-analysis-of-an-ideal-zed/msg391999/#msg391999  Each post tells the reasoning for the method used, the equations used, and a sample calculation.

Really guys, no spread sheet is needed to follow along.  Each presented value can be obtained by following the example and substituting the proper numbers that are shown on the presented diagram.  I am prepared to engage if you find a problem with either the reasoning, the equations used, or the resultant values that are all posted.
I did not demand a spreadsheet.  You can show your work in any number of ways.  You elected to present a spreadsheet that has around 75 values in it, but no supporting equations to obtain those values.  You have been refusing to provide what you say you want audited.   

mondrasek

Quote from: MarkE on March 11, 2014, 11:28:58 AM
I did not demand a spreadsheet.  You can show your work in any number of ways.  You elected to present a spreadsheet that has around 75 values in it, but no supporting equations to obtain those values.  You have been refusing to provide what you say you want audited.

I have explained and showed my methods for the Analysis from the point where it diverges from MarkE's at after State 2.  That begins here:  http://www.overunity.com/14299/mathematical-analysis-of-an-ideal-zed/msg391999/#msg391999  Each post tells the reasoning for the method used, the equations used, and a sample calculation.

MarkE

Quote from: webby1 on March 11, 2014, 09:55:39 AM
Could you show a picture of the initial start condition prior to the first sink?

Thanks
Same as in post #956 here again.  The vent at the top is open.  The system is in stable equilibrium.  The amount of water displaced by the submerged part of the bottle and the soda straws equals the weight of the water bottle plus soda straw assembly.  You can see that it is riding way up high in the larger 2 liter vessel.  The only reason that it has any portion submerged is that the PET water bottle material is denser than water as is slightly the hot glue and soda straw plastic.


MarkE

Quote from: mondrasek on March 11, 2014, 11:42:13 AM
I have explained and showed my methods for the Analysis from the point where it diverges from MarkE's at after State 2.  That begins here:  http://www.overunity.com/14299/mathematical-analysis-of-an-ideal-zed/msg391999/#msg391999  Each post tells the reasoning for the method used, the equations used, and a sample calculation.
Who will follow you down your lovely garden path?  You do see the picture above in the post to Webby don't you?  What does that tell you about your assumptions?  If that doesn't do it for you, then allow me to show you this picture:

MarkE

Let's not forget that before that picture, we had this situation where the vent had been open until the water levels equalized.  What do these slides tell us?