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Overunity Machines Forum



Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

Started by mondrasek, February 13, 2014, 09:17:30 AM

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MarkE

Quote from: webby1 on March 17, 2014, 04:54:17 PM
Funny thing MarkE,, you keep trying to make this personal and I keep trying to discuss the topic.

Why is it that you keep trying to call me names and such, is that because you are feeling less solid about your view?  Is that why you are attacking my person?
Bull shit. 

MarkE

Quote from: webby1 on March 17, 2014, 04:51:38 PM
Sorry MarkE,, the "ideal ZED" is not a real ZED, no matter how many times you try and say it is the same thing, it shares the same parts layout but the function is not the same, in other words, the way it is being used in your tool is not how it is used in the real world, HOW do I KNOW?? I built one, remember,, I played with a real one, remember,, that is hands on in the real world,, so I know the difference between what your tool does and what the real ZED does.

Your tool was intended to compare a nested system with a single piston system,, and guess what,, they are not the same,, your tool demonstrated that.

I posted what the next steps would be to take your tool from one thing and make it actually able to test a real ZED.

As far as the transfer from one ZED to another,, you do not need to worry about that,, I actually have that handled if needed, but your "tyranny" is only for the volume moved to bring one system up to pressure, and if that is not all the volume, or even 1\2 of it, then those losses drop even with a straight pressure\fluid transfer at a 1:1 volume value.
You are so completely full of shit.  If all you are going to do is keep making up fantasies then do so by yourself.  There are no next steps.  The ZED is outperformed by a brick.  Neither you nor any other proponent of the HER/Zydro fraud has, can, or ever will be able to show differently.

MarkE

Quote from: webby1 on March 17, 2014, 05:37:27 PM
Case and point MarkE.

I do appreciate this tool you made and all the things I have learned from you.

I understand if you do not wish to take the model further.
You are so full of it.  You quoted a spreadsheet cell value of 100.12% as meriting further research into HER/Zydro's completely refuted false claims.  You did that even after I showed you proof that the algebraic result was under 100% and that the over 100% result was numerical error caused by your insanely contrived configuration of a 20 story tall ZED with submicron movement.  Even when the: physics, the algebra, and the numerical limitations of Excel have been spelled out for you, you still trot out that proven invalid number as though it is legitimate.  So, either you don't get it, or you are how shall we say: less than forthright. 

You have shown nothing that offers any evidence in favor of HER/Zydro's lies.  You simply keep repeating the tired line that there is some new curtain hiding something.  You keep claiming that there is some new hurdle that has to be cleared.  You keep misrepresenting the OP of this thread.  You keep misrepresenting what I agreed to do and did do. 

There is no further to go.  HER/Zydro are FoS, and have been proven FoS.  If you keep insisting on repeating Wayne's lies then you are no better than Wayne. 

powercat

Quote from: webby1 on March 17, 2014, 05:37:27 PM
Case and point MarkE.

I do appreciate this tool you made and all the things I have learned from you.

I understand if you do not wish to take the model further.
Wow such perseverance, normally to be admired, but considering the $2000 payment and the lack of a credible working device, you now sound like you're working for Wayne travesty's propaganda machine.
When logic and proportion Have fallen
Go ask Alice When she's ten feet tall

Pirate88179

Quote from: webby1 on March 17, 2014, 07:51:39 PM
 
All the things I do, I do out of my own curiosity.


Curiosity is one thing, and total ignorance is another.  By total ignorance I mean: insisting that you are correct when you have been proven incorrect about 100 times now over I don't know how many pages, and continuing to ask for help from the folks that have proven you wrong, and when they do, you continue to not believe them.  I have no other way to define this other than total ignorance.

Now as to if your ignorance is real, or faked to protect Wayne, is for others to decide.  I already have my own opinions on this matter.

Bill
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