Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

[MarkE]

I will address this one.

The non BS numbers show that in the worst case of using a ZED the lift to output is almost 1:1, that is something that natures tyranny does not allow, that is what you have said many times and I agree with, and yet here it is not fully in force.

What is not fully in force?  An under unity result is fully in force.  The only way to reach unity is to convert to a brick and do nothing.

[MarkE]

The water columns are falling and as such should that not mean by the tyranny of nature that there should only be 1\2 that force for the output work?

Grass is growing.  Children are playing.  A plane from Malaysia is still missing.

You have the equations that you need to satisfy to meet the conserved volume and conserved energy requirements.  It's up to you to describe machinery you claim to have already developed that can satisfy the simultaneous requirements.

[MarkE]

I do not need those equations since I am not using a +P*V to change a -P*V directly.

I am allowing water to fall and move something, that is a very simple thing, and if you think that all the energy I can get back is 1\2 the work it took to lift the water, then I think you are mistaken.

You keep saying that.  The problem for you is that those equations simply describe what the relationship is between volume and energy in the two columns.  You are free to introduce some third agent to act as a go between.  Then you will have to satisfy its constraints.  It's been months now, and you still haven't described anything that works.

[MarkE]

Do I only get 1\2 the work back out of the water column falling or do I get it all back.

Why are you dodging this simple question.

If you take two columns of water of equal diameters where one is empty and one is filled to some level and you equalize them then your ending equalized state has half the energy of your starting state.

[Magluvin]

If you take two columns of water of equal diameters where one is empty and one is filled to some level and you equalize them then your ending equalized state has half the energy of your starting state.

But at the starting point, there are no columns completely filled or empty. And each water connected water column are different volumes. The outer larger and the inner smaller. So it is not a good comparison. Like the equal size capacitors, a full dump from one to the other, yes, 50% loss. But these are not equal size, none of the water columns are. So no 50% loss. 

Mags