Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

[MarkE]

Man a whole hour of my day -

Mark you win -- I am going to go enjoy this beautiful day God has given us 

Will God forgive you for stealing from your friends and neighbors?  Will they forgive you?

[minnie]

   Mark,
          getting to sound a bit like Richard Willis here. Vorktek or something.
  Tried to send mrwayne a nice pm. But was blocked.
              John.

[MarkE]

   Mark,
          getting to sound a bit like Richard Willis here. Vorktek or something.
  Tried to send mrwayne a nice pm. But was blocked.
              John.

Richard Willis and his Vortex do nothing machines.  Yes, he is something.  I am surprised that he has not been arrested for mail fraud yet.

Wayne Travis has his foot on the proverbial land mine.  All he can do is stand there.

[MileHigh]

Webby:

The "load" is in the collisions,

Nope, the collisions are a transformer that converts GPE into heat.  The frame of reference is the answer to the original question where I was factoring in the heat energy to account for all of the energy in the water.

Pick up a weight and drop it, when it hits the ground the inelastic collision distorts, compresses and reshapes both the ground and the weight using up all that GPE that has been converted into KE,, the weight and ground heat up.

Same weight same height but this time tie a string to the weight and have that string go around a pulley so that the falling weight will turn the pulley and perform useful work.  Drop the weight,, let it come into contact with the ground,, now how much heat?

Let's just use abstract units for the energy.

In the first example you started out with 100 units of GPE.  The weight falls and there are 100 units of KE just before it hits.  You end up with 100 units of heat energy.

In the second example we will say that as the weight falls that 20 units worth of GPE are imparted to a mechanical load via the pulley.  That slows down the fall of the weight and it hits the ground with only 80 units of KE that become 80 units of heat energy.

See Webby, it all balances.

MileHigh

[mondrasek]

See Wilby, it all balances.

And the "name calling" progresses.

M.