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Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

Started by mondrasek, February 13, 2014, 09:17:30 AM

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Quote from: mrwayne on April 10, 2014, 10:15:49 PM
Oh, let me direct you to our unique ability to hook lossy systems together to reduce input and increase efficiency.
Please read Larry's spread sheets............. It takes 16% of the energy required to come to buoyancy pressure - in a three layered dual ZED system versus a single column to the same head pressure.
Kind of makes it all possible...... thanks
Oh yes this is new - and no - no in the text books..
p.s. Buoyancy is pressure differential times surface area...... in simple terms...


Sorry,,, wayne.... I won't... read Larry's spread cheeks. Thanks.... Smile. ... p.s.
Why don't you express your thoughts in properly structured sentences? Your grammar is almost as insulting as your special branch of cartoon physics.

TinselKoala

QuoteAt the moment the Load is overcome - the external work is neutrally buoyant - any additional input continues to be stored as head and air columns - as the neutral load rises (resulting in external work).

The load is overcome
the external work is neutrally buoyant
additional input continues to be stored
neutral load rises
resulting in external work


Gobbledegook. Neutrally buoyant external work. Rising neutral load. ADDITIONAL INPUT.  What a crock. Blah blah blah. Honest Wayne Travis can't explain what he doesn't have, so he tries the same "dazzle them with BS" tactic that has carried him through the past several years. It doesn't work here, though.

LibreEnergia

Quote from: mrwayne on April 10, 2014, 10:15:49 PM
Oh, let me direct you to our unique ability to hook lossy systems together to reduce input and increase efficiency.
Please read Larry's spread sheets............. It takes 16% of the energy required to come to buoyancy pressure - in a three layered dual ZED system versus a single column to the same head pressure.
Kind of makes it all possible...... thanks
Oh yes this is new - and no - no in the text books..
p.s. Buoyancy is pressure differential times surface area...... in simple terms...

If this is your operating principle then you should have come to the conclusion by now that rather than have a complicated system of layered cylinders that you could replace all that with a spring loaded float that changed volume. The spring would mean its buoyancy could fluctuate between two  values while loosing very little energy in the process.

The effect would be identical to couple of ZEDs and would achieve the same result with fewer losses caused by water flow.

It still would not be a net energy producer either, but that is another discussion.



MileHigh

TK:

If you collected enough of those big leafy pieces of word salad in a file...  and pushed the 'randomize' button...

Is it live or is it Memorex?

MarkE

Quote from: mrwayne on April 10, 2014, 09:51:46 PM
That does not describe the anomaly with the ZED.
Thanks
There is no anomaly with the ZED.  There is ordinary 2000 year old hydrostatics.