Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

[mrwayne]

You are not listening.  Stop talking in your "Wayne universe" nonsense talk and talk in a coherent scientific way that makes sense.  If you can't do that it is just another giant blazing 20-story-tall Las Vegas sign proclaiming for all to see that you are a complete and total fraud.

Plan B, if this is beyond your capacity. is to show something that works.

MileHigh

Three mistakes you make -

It is my invention - not yours - I will use terms that I feel fit the description.
You do not get it at all.... and that's Ok - why waste your time here?
Third - your pathetic attempts to insult me out of relevance did not work with any of the hands on members.....You are wasting your time.
Now.....
When you explain why we can not reuse the input in a ZED - In scientific terms - I will show you "again" how we do...
Good day
Stop the diversions - games and insults...

[mrwayne]

One word for this Mr Wayne Travis... Bullshit.

Your maths will prove anything you like if you indulge in modelling the system in a way that does not represent physical reality.

Show us where you are actually powering an external load and then come back and then prove the potential is still retained.  You will not, because if you did your model would be a first law violation and would not represent physical reality as science currently understands it.

By all means present a model of gravity that allows for it to be non-conservative, but expect it to be well scrutinised by those who actually understand the physics.

Gee Librea... I thought you might say that my math was useless - good guess on my part.
Do you trust MarkE's Math?
Mike adjusted the process as we had asked MarkE to do about twelve times - to show a similar process the ZED uses...instead of his insistence that we must "pop up"
Down load it and answer the physics question? - how much energy is left on the system after the external work is performed?
Thanks

[MileHigh]

I see Wayne is a Polly Parrot.

I will use terms that I feel fit the description.

No you will not use terms that you feel fit the description.  You are playing with hydraulics and pneumatics and the proper scientific terminology for describing these systems exists.  Stop your ridiculous nonsensical baby talk and describe your question and your system properly.

You make a laughing stock of yourself when you use that baby talk.  If you met a group of mechanical engineers that design hydraulic and pneumatic systems they would think that you were nuts.

MileHigh

[LibreEnergia]

Now.....
When you explain why we can not reuse the input in a ZED - In scientific terms - I will show you "again" how we do...

Such re-use would be a clear violation of the first law. You know the one that says 'Energy cannot be created or destroyed'.

To power an external load, energy is leaving the system, It's up to you to show where energy enters the system to account for this output.

If you try to argue no energy enters the system then you are creating that energy out of nothing. That does not happen.

If you claim the energy is some how 'coming from gravity' then show exactly how and where a mass is being lifted that requires less energy input than the potential it gains.

Another source might be expansion in the air it contains. This is perhaps more likely.. the amount of verbiage you produce is more than enough to generate the hot air this would require.

[mrwayne]

I see Wayne is a Polly Parrot.

No you will not use terms that you feel fit the description.  You are playing with hydraulics and pneumatics and the proper scientific terminology for describing these systems exists.  Stop your ridiculous nonsensical baby talk and describe your question and your system properly.

You make a laughing stock of yourself when you use that baby talk.  If you met a group of mechanical engineers that design hydraulic and pneumatic systems they would think that you were nuts.

MileHigh

Not answering the question and more insults...yep Troll