Mathematical Analysis of an Ideal ZED

[MileHigh]

I told you that I might answer the question if you actually posed it so that it was comprehensible.  So who is the real troll I wonder?

This is where you fall flat on your face Wayne.  There is the nonsensical "selective memory" when the discussion is only 20 minutes old.  Likewise, you may be able to razzle-dazze a bunch of retired farmers and their wives out of their retirement savings with your ridiculous nonsensical "Wayne's vocabulary" but not me and not here.

Between the selective memory that only lasts 10 minutes and the nonsensical baby talk it's a wonder that you managed to get this far with your prancing fluids fantasies.

MileHigh

[mrwayne]

Such re-use would be a clear violation of the first law. You know the one that says 'Energy cannot be created or destroyed'.

To power an external load, energy is leaving the system, It's up to you to show where energy enters the system to account for this output.

Not Bad, ... my respects.
I will post separately for topic's you said a bunch in one answer.

[mrwayne]

Such re-use would be a clear violation of the first law. You know the one that says 'Energy cannot be created or destroyed'.

I am not sure you are talking about the same thing ...... how is reuse - creating or destroying energy?
I know what you intended - If the reuse results in more energy than the original - it must be created energy....
I want you to think on that a bit - reused energy ... assumes it was used in the first place correct?
But it does not say that it was consumed....If we consumed the internal pressure - The law of creation / destruction would apply.
As with our first ZED system - we transferred the same displacement left and right - between two ZEDs as many times as we liked - it was never consumed.

[mrwayne]

To power an external load, energy is leaving the system, It's up to you to show where energy enters the system to account for this output.

Does the law say that a "external energy" must be accounted for by energy input into a separate system?
I know this is tricky - not meant to be... but if a boat is floating in the pool - does it take more or less energy to add water to the pool?
To jump you ahead a bit - the ratio of water put in to the value of the buoyancy/ mass of the boat make a huge difference to the results of the next proper question:
Does it take more energy in the water to lift the boat and then extract the energy when the pool is drained.....
Depends --- how much energy went into raising the water versus the mass value of the boat....
The discovery of the layered system spanks that answer pretty well.
The ZED layers hooked in series invented a method to raise the water level extremely cheap..
And hooking two together - meant we could reused that water head from one pool to another...
If this is too much... let me know.
Another point - the ratio - that is so important is improved by not dropping the boat/mass to far.

[mrwayne]

If you try to argue no energy enters the system then you are creating that energy out of nothing. That does not happen.

Actually the question shows you do not understand the ZED.
When we put pressure and volume into the ZED - at a extremely reduced volume for the Buoyancy created - No energy is created - a mechanical way to capture gravity - in the form of an elevated mass.... produces energy.
Now if you think Gravity doe not do work - that's a problem..
If you think that it is impossible to float a weight cheaply - you should look into the ZED.
If you think that PV transferred left and right consumes the value... it does cost additional energy to move it left and right - but not the value in the PV.
Thanks