Work from 2 magnets > 19% output 2

[norman6538]

Nice drawings Floor but this factor always got me stuck.
1. closer stronger and
2. further weaker.
3. two sides that have forces to be accounted for....

In my work I have found those three factors make things very difficult.
The Echlin thing is an example of that.


Keep trying with this in mind though.

Norman

[Floor]

@Norman6538

Yep

It can get pretty confusing with all of the changes...  changing force of rotation with each degree,
changing force of sliding with each mm, changing direction of sliding, changing direction of rotation.

None of the forces are constant (they are increasing or decreasing) throughout the motions .

During the measuring process, there are 4 distinct inputs of work.  The largest
input (in reverse) generally being considered as the "output"

My goal, originally, was to have the RO..tation as out put and the SL..ider
as input,

The latest variation of the unit is to finally.... give this result.

Some energy could be stored as rotation, by use of a ratcheting
fly wheel as Webby suggests.

But energy spent on acceleration is already usable / used / can be used as
expenditure of momentum, in some of the TD motions.even though there are
reversing motions.

    regards
             floor

[Floor]

@ Lumen @ Luc

Do either of you feel ready to make some kind of interim summation
of your TD investigations ?

@all readers
                  Still looking for the error / s.              12/16/2016
..........................................................................
           below are
What to me, may be, unanswered feed back / critical input  to date.
and which was based upon examinations of

a. the measuring devices used
b. measurement procedures followed
c. mathematical  processes

and which also, are not already addressed and / or possibly incompletely
addressed.

     from

1. ConradElectro - measurements simply show the difference
in friction between RO and SL actions ?

2. Floor - Miss application of the force integration process in general ?

3. Floor- Unequal effect / application of the law of diminishing returns upon
RO as compared to SL ? 

4. Lumen - back side influence ?

5. DrJones - incomplete conversion of the actions into joules ?

6. GoToLuc - math error ?

7. Webby - ?

...................................................................
Floor is continuing testing, Lumen intends to do further testing,
GoToLuc's testing is also, as yet incomplete.
...................................................................
@Lumen  I would like to see a topic dedicated to your TD replication.
as "Lumen's TD replication" or the like, and maybe copy your data,
graphs, photos etc. to that new topic ?

                       regards
                              floor

[gotoluc]

@ Lumen @ Luc

Do either of you feel ready to make some kind of interim summation
of your TD investigations ?

                       regards
                              floor

Hi floor

I'm still experimenting with different magnet geometry before I start building the 2nd test device.

As a quick interim summation I would say that the TD effect is very interesting to say the least. Definitely worthy to build and study compared to anything else on this site.
My tests always seems to score a greater output torque compared to input torque. My results were shared in the TD Replication topic.

Hopefully I'll have the second test device built in a week or so. This one will take more time to build then the first test device as it will rotate and hopefully have enough output torque gain to loop back to operate the input.

Hope this helps to summarize where I'm at to this point

Kind regards

Luc

[Floor]

@luc

            Looking forward to it.

                    floor