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Overunity Machines Forum



Work from 2 magnets > 19% output 2

Started by Floor, February 17, 2014, 01:53:56 PM

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norman6538

More on the closer stronger - further weaker problem.
If you have a magnet that will lift a 1 lb weight 1/8 inch I call that
1 unit of work. But if you move that 1 lb to 1/4 inch it likely will not
lift the 1 lb weight but it might lift a 1/2 lb weight and that I call
a half unit of work and the way I get that extra half unit of work is to
use a variable lever that has greater leverage to lift that 1/2 lb weight
before it lifts the 1 lb weight. And that is done by making the weakness
of the magnet at the greater distance to be stronger with more leverage
at that spot.
Picture the variable lever to be a small lever with a fulcrum halfway from the center.
when the lever is tilted 45 degrees the leverage is closer to 1:1 because the
true leverage (variable lever) is the distance to the center measured by a plumb line but when it is horizontal the short end is at a leverage disadvantage.

That small extra advantage can push you into OU.

Norman

gotoluc

Hi Norman,

I'm trying to understand where your post fits to what has been demonstrated. Care to be a little more specific as to who's test device you're referring to and then where you see what you've described fits.

Regards

Luc

Floor

@norman6538

What Gotoluc is speaking to, is that we are trying to keep THIS topic and the "TD replications"
topic specifically for examination of the "TD unit".

Postings of other kinds of comments, which address magnets,
physics and measurement process and for more general magnet discussions
can be made @
                    http://overunity.com/16954/magnets-motion-and-measurement/   

I love to have more discussions with you upon these other, and more
general topics,  please re post your comment there.


Sorry, I've let this topic slip away from it's specific intended purpose. 

Gotoluc is doing a "TD" based presentation @

                             http://overunity.com/16987/td-replications/

I have asked Lumen "the other replication presenter" if he would make a new topic specific to
his replication (for the clarity and ease of his presentation) but he is still busy else where
at this time.

                    regards
                       floor

Floor

Please find the 2 attached files "PassThrough 3-1.png"
                  floor

gotoluc

WOW for sure floor!

you've just shared the magnet geometry I've been testing for the past 2 days which I was going to use in my 2nd test device since it is very effective in torque transfer.
So you came to the same conclusion without us even talking or sharing about it. Kind of ruined my surprise but that's okay ;)

Your introduction of a cylinder between the magnets is very interesting to say the least!... I had not thought about that.

Would a plain Iron cylinder work between the inner and outer magnet or are you suggesting it be a magnet as well?

You're really raising the bar now and giving much food for thought.

Thanks for sharing

Luc