Work from 2 magnets > 19% output 2

[norman6538]

Thanks Floor for your work and measurement posts. You like me have an OU device
which I believe proves that not all energy/work done is conserved. However many
don't believe the measurements but insist on a self running device. I have a magnet
setup that is over 100% but my estimate is that it takes about 200% to get self
running.  So no one has any interest in my devices because with heads in the sand they think - no OU unless it self runs. And I say Faraday and others did not start out
with a 3 phase AC motor. They got there step by step and so can we.

Keep at it Floor.

Norman

[Floor]

Thanks Norman
You too

[Floor]

I heard a lecturer once say "Our goals become our limitations"

I am not in some respects very qualified for this undertaking. This
project is in fact, the first time in my life that I have ever under taken
to measure and graph force interactions.  Typos abound during
my late night sessions, and when I am burning the candle at both ends.
Note..Although cut and paste writing methods are very time efficient,
they also give rise to their own unique variety of typo. ah ha !

The process I am engaged in, has two main parts
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A first part is to measure sets of force interactions between the
RO magnet and the SL magnet to determine the optimum work-out
to work-in ratios.  These measurements must include the work done,
to return both RO and SL to their starting positions.   
Yes, I'm attempting O.U..

There are many many fascinating possibilities of variations in
magnet shapes to explore.  One could, I think, spend years
exploring this aspect alone.

At little later point in this letter, I will give some details, of one
of the magnet shapes, I would like to examine in the near future.
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A second part  of the process, is to measure and map a force helix
between the RO and SL magnets.

Quote from Spok (The wrath of Kahn)
"He's intelligent but lacks experience. Analysis shows, his thinking
is two dimensional."
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SHAPE
1. A slight "propeller edge" on (the facing each other) edges, of the RO and SL magnets.
There exists a drawing of this, in previous postings.

2. A longer (along it's long axis) SL magnet then the RO magnet (along it's long axis).
               or
3. A longer (along it's long axis) RO magnet then the SL magnet (along it's long axis).

In any case (1, 2 or 3), the magnets are still centered to one another during force measurements.
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DIRECTION OF APPROACH

I have a working  hypothesis (for the time being).  understanding NEAR right angle interactions
in the electric and  magnetic fields are the key to O.U..
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THE NEXT VIDEO.

Why NEAR right angle.

[lumen]

Consider this:
I have a 1 pound weight hanging on a spring.
I then place a lever under this weight with a fulcrum in the center of the lever.
I place another 1 pound weight on the far end of the lever and raise the weight on the spring.

Shifting the fulcrum, I find I can raise the weight on spring two times higher than the one on the lever moves.
With further testing I find the optimal position of the fulcrum and find I can raise the weight over 3 times higher at it's best point.

What I'm actually testing are simply the dynamics of the spring and there is no OU.

[Floor]

@lumen

Yes agreement

You are simply adding the energy (the weight lifted) which you stored
in the spring, when the weight was first lowered onto the spring. 

There is no net gain.  The work you did by lifting the weight (energy stored),
and then the work done by gravity to compress the spring (energy transferred)
are equal (before friction loss).  Applying leverage to the actions does not change
this fact.

And similarly, THERE IS NO NET GAIN in either energy, or the work done
in the actions that occur in the video.

See my post, (which I think you missed?).  Just read the last few preceding
posts (yours and mine).

All is well, I believe you and I, are both interpreting the events in the video correctly.

                                   floor