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Overunity Machines Forum



Akula0083 30 Watt Self Running Generator.

Started by Grumage, March 06, 2014, 12:29:06 PM

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Hoppy

Quote from: TinselKoala on April 21, 2014, 10:17:25 AM

Of course if the PSU is altered inside then all this discussion is somewhat moot. Still, I believe that careful observation can always reveal some clues.

One of the best clues is where he throws the switch on the PSU, then connects the 9V battery. When the battery is connected, the LED's light but when the battery is removed, the lamps extinguish. He realises that the switch needs to be thrown to latch in the relay or electronic switch inside the PSU, so as to connect the hidden battery to the output of the PSU. No need for complicated modifications or terminal re-designations, just a simple bit of skulduggery inside the PSU. Your short video reinforces this. Notice the similarity of the suspicious looking white wire inside the PSU as shown in my last post, to the white wire used on the ferrite choke.

T-1000

Quote from: Hoppy on April 21, 2014, 11:36:54 AM
One of the best clues is where he throws the switch on the PSU, then connects the 9V battery. When the battery is connected, the LED's light but when the battery is removed, the lamps extinguish. He realises that the switch needs to be thrown to latch in the relay or electronic switch inside the PSU, so as to connect the hidden battery to the output of the PSU. No need for complicated modifications or terminal re-designations, just a simple bit of skulduggery inside the PSU. Your short video reinforces this. Notice the similarity of the suspicious looking white wire inside the PSU as shown in my last post, to the white wire used on the ferrite choke.
Part 3, minute 13 - where do you see power output from disconnected PSU?
Minute 14 - akula connects 9V "КОСМОС" 200mAh battery and 8 LEDs are lit up (1 Watt load) while ampmeter is showing power consumption of 0.02-0.03A which includes 1W load of LEDs + powering up electronics...

Please watch it frame by frame because akula did fit all these tests into very short video and only then try to point out what you did find suspicious there.

4Tesla

Come on guys!  Assuming that the supply is not altered in any way.. what good would DC be on a transformer???  The white wires are connected to AC in and the black wires are DC out.  It is the only logical way of wiring.  And that is what the AS datasheet shows.  I don't think there are any inverse pinouts in the datasheet.. that was made up.


TinselKoala

Just because "8 leds are lit up" that does NOT mean that they are drawing their full rated power. There is no evidence that the LEDs are actually dissipating one Watt, while the input power is 9v x 0.03 A= 270 mW. In fact, 270 mW is plenty to light up ten or more LEDs to full brilliance, especially if they are pulsed.

QuoteCome on guys!  Assuming that the supply is not altered in any way.. what good would DC be on a transformer???  The white wires are connected to AC in and the black wires are DC out.  It is the only logical way of wiring.  And that is what the AS datasheet shows.  I don't think there are any inverse pinouts in the datasheet.. that was made up.

That is NOT what the AS data sheet shows! LOOK AT THE DIAGRAMS! The terminal strip is always numbered from left to right, so the _numbers_ of the terminals are different in the "mirror image" version. The DC OUTPUT is always next to the large gap, where the fine adjust pot and the LED are located. This is true for the "mirror image" AS data sheet as well as the AR data sheet. The data sheets agree with me.

So if you want to claim that the wiring is as YOU say, you will need to provide some evidence that overrides the data sheets and the actual device.

I am perfectly willing to agree with you, IF you provide evidence. The data sheets agree with me, though.


Hoppy

Quote from: T-1000 on April 21, 2014, 01:11:23 PM
Part 3, minute 13 - where do you see power output from disconnected PSU?
Minute 14 - akula connects 9V "КОСМОС" 200mAh battery and 8 LEDs are lit up (1 Watt load) while ampmeter is showing power consumption of 0.02-0.03A which includes 1W load of LEDs + powering up electronics...

Please watch it frame by frame because akula did fit all these tests into very short video and only then try to point out what you did find suspicious there.

I studied part 3, from minute 13 carefully. I'm fairly sure that his 9V battery is operating a low current switch, which in turn is completing the circuit for a high-cap / super-cap discharge into the supply rail of an oscillator (primary of ferrite transformer) operating in flyback mode to light the LED's.